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Is Tobi- Madara Uchiha or Obito Uchiha?

Some people say that Tobi is Obito, I'm just curious with your Opinion or fact.
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for me tobi is Uchiha Obito, because i've been reading naruto manga and also about kakashi's past..did'nt he got that left sharingan eyes from obito? and as you can see tobi only shows his right sharingan eyes...so i got to the conclusion that he really is OBITO...got it?
irlinairaid posted over a year ago
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tobi cant be Madara as in the forth Great Shinobi War Madara was Revived by Kabuto's Reanimation Jutsu
griffince posted over a year ago
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Obito's face has to be half smashed because the accident that happened, but in ep 141 of shippuuden when tobi shows his face to kisame, his face wasnt half smashed
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 Dark-Axl posted over a year ago
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Catlion said:
Tobi,Madara Uchiha and Obito Uchiha is the same if you are watching Naruto Shippuuden Season 3 you will know that thing!!!!
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Tobi,Madara Uchiha and Obito Uchiha is the same if you are watching Naruto Shippuuden Season 3 you will know that thing!!!!
posted over a year ago 
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that would be interesting...if Madara somehow was taking use of Obito's body...But that would be too much of a coincidence....
sparkyjade posted over a year ago
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But hey! This is naruto, anythings possible! ^^ I really wish this is true
sparkyjade posted over a year ago
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Then Why Doesn't Tobi HaVe Long Spiky Hair , un?
ItachiUchihaGF posted over a year ago
signus said:
I Would say none because in the chapter of toby and kabuto together Tobi asks what would happen if he didn't accept, to which Kabuto responds by summoning a sixth coffin containing Madara Uchiha. Horrified that Kabuto is aware that Madara is actually dead, Tobi agrees to an alliance, though he forces Kabuto to accept a few conditions. First being that Sasuke will not be turned over until after the war. And secondly, Kabuto will be watched at all times while at the hideout. Though Kabuto's summons were returned, Tobi was still uneasy about the sixth casket, while leading Kabuto into his hideout so he can assess his battle strength and reformulate his war plans.so tobi is not madara uchiha
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SonOfPein said:
Tobi's identity has already been revealed in the manga, so it is a spoiler. I normally don't spoil stories for people, but since you asked for it with 'or fact'... Tobi is Madara Uchiha. I'll leave the rest of the story unspoiled for you by only giving Madara's name, though I'm sure someone else will post a huge spoiler on Madara's background and the story line, and completely ruin it for you.
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I do know some of Madara's past, like how he took his brother's eyes. and founded the hidden leaf village with the first Hokage
Dark-Axl posted over a year ago
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lol. so you read spoilers. I avoid spoilers like the plague, kinda like Kakashi, I squeeze my eyes real tight and cover my ears at the sound of spoilers!
SonOfPein posted over a year ago
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Incorrect, if you read latest magna then you will know he is obito, he reavealed this to kakashi while in last moment of great ninja war 4
ShadowSlayers posted over a year ago
yoki96 said:
In the manga and anime, I think it's the same, Tobi is definetly Madara (manga page:?; anime ep.: season 6 - ep. 125).
As for the whole "Madara could be using Obito's body" reply, that could be true but there is still no proof of that yet (or maybe there is but I just don't know about it :D).
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posted over a year ago 
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you are right i agree with you
kasdeyheart posted over a year ago
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no obito is tobi
Antwannkiddo posted over a year ago
MisterPerfect1 said:
Tobi isn't Madara. In the manga, Kabuto used Impure World Resurrection to bring [Madara] back to life, so that proves that Tobi can't be Madara.
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posted over a year ago 
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EXACTLY!!!!
Kirara4ever posted over a year ago
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obito is tobi
Antwannkiddo posted over a year ago
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Nice
anish988 posted over a year ago
pyrus113011 said:
It is impossible for Tobi to be Obito because there are many factors that would stop that from happening the first and for most is Obito's entire right side of his body was CRUSHED and he DIED right then and there so seeing the Tobi uses his right eye that isn't true second Obito loved his village so it's not possible for him to betray the Hidden Leaf so in conclusion OBITO IS NOT TOBI
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OMFG THANK YOU THANK U THESE PEOPEL ARE DUMB A.F THANNNKKK YOUUUUUU (not being sorc.) BEIGN REAL u made my day ty
bingokill posted over a year ago
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no he survived obito is tobi
Antwannkiddo posted over a year ago
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I know I read and I forgot all about this but thank you for being the FIRST person in my life to use something I said a year ago just to make yourself feel good for about 15 seconds
pyrus113011 posted over a year ago
nejiizawesome said:
obito uchiha
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thank u
Antwannkiddo posted over a year ago
undeademperor1 said:
I already know, if you don't then you aren't reading the Manga, well you will know soon enough, who do you think it is??
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poor guy
akatsuki7 posted over a year ago
clatrag101 said:
It's Madara. He said so himself. Along with a lot of Uchiha's history. read the 43rd manga!
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posted over a year ago 
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tell your mother
akatsuki7 posted over a year ago
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It's obito. Madara told him the history
anish988 posted over a year ago
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Read 607th chapter it'll prove you wrong
ShadowSlayers posted over a year ago
sabakunogaara said:
He's both.
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posted over a year ago 
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he is not both he is madara it says so in episode 139
sassikassi posted over a year ago
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Madar Uchiha,Obito Uchiha and Tobi is One!!!!!!!!!
Catlion posted over a year ago
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Read ch 600 to 620 it proves that he is obito and madara is his grandfather.
ShadowSlayers posted over a year ago
Kitama309 said:
At first, I put my hopes up on it being Obito, because Kakashi wouldn't have a squadmate dead, but when I found out it was Madara, I was super shocked. He hides his hidden self really well, with the crazy personality that Tobi has. Lol
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ya he does, Tobi acts weird haha
Dark-Axl posted over a year ago
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true true.
Kitama309 posted over a year ago
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He is obito, i read ch 600-620 it say that he pretend to be madara
ShadowSlayers posted over a year ago
sassikassi said:
in episode 139 it shows tobi as madara
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raiku-san said:
i am a member of the akatsuki so this should be easy:the master calls him Madara but i think his real name is obito so i guess he is both.
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ilovdeidara said:
madara uchiha
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_anya_ said:
tobi is madara uchiha but his body is obito uchiha
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? i dont get it...
ilovepokemon3 posted over a year ago
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to pilon toi
akatsuki7 posted over a year ago
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Obito
anish988 posted over a year ago
cocothefox said:
its madara! everyone knows that that stone that u saw when suske and naruto fighted he was the stone that was on the right i know that because im a fan of naruto shippden and naruto and i have the book that shows them fighting so its madara uchiha and no obito uchiha madara makes up tobi to ....... wait u need to find out all right if u want to watch naruto shippden go on www.holo.com
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It's obito.. He should have taken of the mask if it was really him duh???
anish988 posted over a year ago
Szayel_Aporro said:
Tobi is Madara but I am not sure about Obito because I rebmer that he got killed
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posted over a year ago 
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don't tell me
akatsuki7 posted over a year ago
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Obito manga 600
anish988 posted over a year ago
QuinaG said:
If Tobi Is madara uchiha why doesnt he use her eternal sharingan he"s using her normal sharingan maybe its obito or madara we will know it soon
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YESS! This is exactly my point. Plus he said his physical form is weak and not whole. (Hoping when he becomes the Juubi's jinchuuriki, he'll gain unbelievable power) he could be using some reanimation jutsu...lol anything is possible! Madara could just be using Obito's body...And it must be weak from the rocks. OH AND ONE THING THAT CONVINCED ME is that Madara's trick where he can send things to another dimension is JUST like Kakashi's. Remeber, thats the eye Obito gave to him, so in a way it all makes sense. ^^
sparkyjade posted over a year ago
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yes genius
milutin posted over a year ago
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And he has no susanoo
anish988 posted over a year ago
olidodger said:
ok everyone bare with me here. Tobi is Obito/Madara. Fact: #1. Madara is SUPER OLD lol if he were alive im sure he would be dead by now. Of course its Naruto so the laws of reality do not apply so there could be some survial angle. #2. Tobi is in fact some form of Obito. In Manga 509 it is revealed that Tobi/Madara/Obito is attempting to get his eye.... Obito gave one of his eyes to Kagashi(sure is spelled it wrong but you know what i mean) #3. in this same manga M/O/Tobi states "Don't Underestimate the eye powers of an Uchiha Child" why is this a fact you may ask? well Madara was a founder of Uchiha so there for he can not be a child of the Uchiha because he was the first to establish the clan. #4. this my not really be a good on but i have seen the photos of madara with a cracked mask and he has the same hair, bandages and eye that Obito had. #5 notice Marada has his left eye covered. while Kakashi has his left covered. Coincedence?! HELL NO!!! lol Finally lets be honest none of us really know we can only come up this theories and that my fellow Anime/Manga fans is the best part. Enjoy :)
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gutsy said:
orochimaru had a jutsu that helped him to live young forever the one he took possession of someones body but only lasted 3 years i dont recal where he got that jutsu but it could had been madara's all along and orochimaru wanted sasuke sharingan so bad because he would never need to trade bodies again
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mikiya said:
hey...we dont know if obito is still alive!
obito died in the grass village and then so zetsu was walking around and will find him...then obito will be tobi...the two names obito and tobi are similar!
and the color of the hair and the eyes they have!
bu still we cannot say he is obito!
we all know that tobi said that he is madara...but who knows maybe he is fake!!!
my answer is that tobi is not madara and not even obito...i saw the new picture of tobi's mask and it was showing the both eyes....so he is not obito...and we cannot say that he is madara becuz madara died before as so long!!!
no one can be alive since 200 years!!
haha but this hapens in the animes!
but realy realy am thinking that tobi is a fake person...this is my answer....and sorry of this bad english i huv!!!
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hey...we dont know if obito is still alive!
obito died in the grass village and then so zetsu was walking around and will find him...then obito will be tobi...the two names obito and tobi are similar!
and the color of the hair and the eyes they have!
bu still we cannot say he is obito!
we all know that tobi said that he is madara...but who knows maybe he is fake!!!
my answer is that tobi is not madara and not even obito...i saw the new picture of tobi's mask and it was showing the both eyes....so he is not obito...and we cannot say that he is madara becuz madara died before as so long!!!
no one can be alive since 200 years!!
haha but this hapens in the animes!
but realy realy am thinking that tobi is a fake person...this is my answer....and sorry of this bad english i huv!!!
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truehero23 said:
In I like the idea that madara stole obitos body and I kinda don't like to shatter anybodys theory but there's a big whole in the idea that madara stole obitos body in one of the later chapters there's a flashback showing naruto as a baby his dad was still hokage which means kakashi and his squad were likely children still at the time. Anyway at this time madara attacked the village again in an attempt to steal baby naruto(u guys all know why) and of course naruto's dad being hokage and all he kicked madara's ass with a good ol' resengan to the back. Ok so back to the point, if madara was super old when the first hokage defeated him and he did do a replacement with obito's corpse then wouldn't yodaime be fighting oil obito instead of big bad madara? Once again I'm not trying to destroy amyones theories so if u guys find a clever loopwhole to this predicament I would luv to hear it because in the retarded world of naruto anything is possible


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kakashi505 said:
they are all the same thang its pretty weird right?????
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How the hell can they be the same thing? That's Hidan logic Because he never dies
anish988 posted over a year ago
SasuNaru_Fan said:
well when u watch or read the manga it says he is Madara Uchiha and u will find out Obito Uchiha die so yea hehe
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Kalinnn said:
Guys,let me tell u the real truth...Tobi is not Ucihaha Madara!We all saw Obito dying under the rocks,but no! Zetsu saved him and now he is controlling hes body known as "Tobi" The battle vs Danzo tobi lost hes hand and white fluid popped,witch was from white zetsu. Uchiha Madara have died before and he was in the coffin that Kabutomaru showed to Tobi and he got frightent. Thats the truth,Fans!
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posted over a year ago 
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um..no!!!!!
ilovepokemon3 posted over a year ago
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like first im not a fan of tobi like second tobi is madara!
milutin posted over a year ago
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Um yea he is obito
anish988 posted over a year ago
milutin said:
Tobi is Madara!It's not Obito cuz he's death!
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Tobi is Madara!It's not Obito cuz he's death!
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reffer to my answer around the bottom of the page
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
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how do you know that obito died they never said he did you didnt see him die he mightve lived
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
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learn how to speak,morons
akatsuki7 posted over a year ago
Animeshnica said:
Obito Uchiha :P no he is Madara of course
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toadsage said:
there are several indicators that madara/tobi or whatever you want to call him is really obito. He has the ability to control time and space with sharingan as kakashi does with his mangekyo, and kakashi has obito's left eye implanted. also whenever it shows madara, it only shows his right eye indicating he only has one eye. But consider how the character tobi/madara acts. In the latest episodes and in the manga, it shows that madara has evil intents and is just an evil guy to the core. if obito did somehow survive and is now going under the name of madara, why would he have any evil intents to destroy Konaha and take over the world?
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posted over a year ago 
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very good just why i thought as well
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
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but youv also missed something else
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
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post on my wall to find out
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
Ninjakilla18 said:
Well in the manga,nt sure the exact chp., kabuto came 2 tobi 2 help with his plot..and tobi tried 2 get over on kabuto. So kabuto used his kuchiyosei edo tensei no jutsu and brought a casket up and revealed it 2 tovbi...at 1st the person wasnt revealed but the person did put fear n tobi... Then l8r to the current chp. 559 kabuto began losing the battle so he useed 1 of the ppl he brought bak 2 summon a new person...which turned out 2 b madara...so n my opinion i believe madara is dead and tobi has 2 b either obito, sm1 posing as obito...or the sage of the 6 paths still living, or it could b his younger brother?
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thats not bad but i can give you some flawes in what youv just written post on my wall to find out more
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
mindy1134 said:
actually you are all wrong, SPOILER ALERT. in the manga. there is a war happening as all of you kno, BUT when gaarra finished killing his father (impure world somthing :P) the 2nd mizukage whitch got brougt back to life was walking behind someone. and that was uchiha madara. HE was also brout back to life. that means tobi is not madara. if u want i can give the link and show u all to the manga. sorry to be a dick
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telling the truth is not being a dick this guy sent aquestion you answered as well as you could
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
naruto12354 said:
ha it has a more probability of being obito than it does madara actually let me get one thing straight IT IS NOT MADARA if you do not like spoilers do not read on.kabutos secret weapon that he was talking about in the chapter reinforments arrive show that the secret weapon is madara there fore he is dead which leads to this question who is tobi no body knows he is reffered to as "him" but theres one thing i do know it is that the rinnegan is the evolution of the sharingan and madara has a susanoo,o .the possibilities iv picked out are ,obito ,hashirama or izuna those are my guesses but it could be none of them if youd like an explanation as to why i think these reasons are ask on my wall and ill explain why those are my possibilities
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posted over a year ago 
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Read chp. 560... It brings a whole new understanding
Ninjakilla18 posted over a year ago
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i know but..........
naruto12354 posted over a year ago
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Rikudou Sennin 4 is tobie madara wasnt alive back then when the ten tails was around and the person that knew about the ten tails was Rikudou Sennin 4
liboyjon posted over a year ago
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he is not madara
orchidpea posted over a year ago
OBITOmadara said:
obito uchiha is the one behind the mask because:

1. Tobi is missing his left (or right i dont fuckin no) eye sharingan, as we no obito and kakashi were once in a team, before the 'death' of otobi. kakashi takes obitos right (or left) sharingan to symbolize otobi living on through him.

2. in manga 559 we see that the real madara uchiha has been resurrected by kabuto by his jutsu. this is why tobi agrees to side with kabuto and give him sasuke uchiha.

3. tobi has only just completed his rinnengan recently, though we learn madara unlocked it before his death, years before tobi.


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Everything is true however Tobi's fight with Konan reavaled Tobi had both Sharingan eyes as he activated Izangi with his left
wolfmaster3000 posted over a year ago
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Rikudou Sennin 4 is tobie madara wasnt alive back then when the ten tails was around and the person that knew about the ten tails was Rikudou Sennin 4
liboyjon posted over a year ago
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He had a left eye, but he used izanagi while fighting konan the paper ninja and lost it, thats why he put a rinegan in!
emosasukeuchiha posted over a year ago
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He also stated that he gave nagato the rinnegan eyes and was just taking what was his
tonyplox posted over a year ago
akatsuki7 said:
bouss zot liki do ban pilon

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liboyjon said:
Rikudou Sennin 4 is tobie madara wasnt alive back then when the ten tails was around and the person that knew about the ten tails was Rikudou Sennin 4
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Yes but Tobi's evil. Pure evil that is. He wants to destroy practically everything for the sake of improving his sharigan. Does it make sense that it's the sage of six paths, a guy who traveled all over to spread peace and end war? I can't say it does. Even if Madara wasn't alive he could have heard word of the 10 tailed beast through stories or legends. Although I don't think Tobi is Madara either, Obito would be more likely than Madara, but the issue is his entire right half of his body was crushed under a rock, meaning the right eye which Tobi had exposed would probably be gone or seriously damaged. Not trying to be rude or anything I'm just pointing out that Tobi can't be Rikudou because they're after two completely different things.
Katcurbstomp posted over a year ago
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Actually the sage of six paths being Tobi is the most likely theory. Yes he was all about peace but he created the ninja world which bred all sort of hate and lots of war. He may be thinking since he started all this war and hate that he should be the one to end it. He may have seen that since there truly is no way to be peace in the world that it's better to enslave them all under the ten tails and force peace. Since he started the ninja world he may see it as he's the only one who can put an end to it.
Thatguy213 posted over a year ago
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They call him rikUdou denning just because of his power but Tobi just uses kamui like kakashi on himself
anish988 posted over a year ago
xxanimeforevaxx said:
Idk madara obito same thing
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emosasukeuchiha said:
My big opinion i came with after lots of research is that it obviously cant be madara, and its also pretty unlikely from research to be Obito! So I have one idea that meets all criteria of being tobi! You want to know who im talking bout than read my article!
On this link: link
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kasdeyheart said:
madara didnot you wtach episode 205
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shinuzumi said:
Madara Uchiha is oNly uSing oBito's boDy.. ^^
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posted over a year ago 
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are you sure about this
kasdeyheart posted over a year ago
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pretty sure thats not true.... Madara has his body back so why would he need obito... his body would be 13 then.. not like 20 to 30
Kirara4ever posted over a year ago
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One thing there is no ghosts
anish988 posted over a year ago
Kirara4ever said:
He is neither in the manga he says and I quote(I think)" I am neither you say then just call me by my old name, Tobi, it truly does not matter nor do I care who I am" That is essentially what he said.
SPOILER!!




He changes masks... His other eye is a rinnegan like pain. It sure seems that the rinnegan isnt as rare cuz like 15 or so people have it currently as of chap 568.
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posted over a year ago 
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he stole ningatos but it's true he isn't Madara because when real Madara showed up he was all like "this seems like something he would do "
wolfmaster3000 posted over a year ago
hayley4086 said:
Short and simple.Tobi and Madara are the same person.proof is in episode 125 of Naruto Shippuden.Obito has nothing to do with it and hate to break it to you HE IS DEAD!!!Obito died at age 13 and in his last moments he was paralyzed so he wouldn't be able to do a reanimation jutsu.He was also buried and has a grave stone marking.Proof on episode 120 of Naruto Shippuden.
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posted over a year ago 
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Not simple... Only zetsu and Hidan can do that crap
anish988 posted over a year ago
Dainish-_- said:
Okay there has been many theories to this but here is mine:

How did Tobi know about the stone tablet in the Uchiha Hideout? Only full blood Uchihas can enter, if its not Madara... then who exactly is it?

Heres my Theory: Tobi appears at Sasukes side when he is in trouble, Zetsu isnt always around so Tobi isnt always informed yet he shows up to save Sasuke all the time. What I have been thinking is it is Sasuke... from the future. As "Tobi" says, once you reach levels of Sharingan more abilities open up, he has space time ninjutsu and has travelled in time before, exactly why it could be sasuke from a different timeline... if you say: " But oh, he has Madaras eyes " well, as tobi has been doing stealing the victims eyes, he could of gone back and got Madara's? Everything works out with this theory
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kid_deadpool said:
I believe that Tobi is really Obito Uchiha because when you look at tobi and kakashi's eye powes they really function the same the only difference is that tobi uses it for a defence and kakkashi uses it for an attack.
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Makaih said:
Tobi is Obito.

kakashi's and tobi's sharingan power is the same.
both manipulate space and dimension.

sooo... the FACT here is... kakashi's sharingan came from obito. then the only logic in telling the sharingan power of kakashi and tobi to be the same is that both eyes came from obito.

BUT! that's only the logic. still.. manga is manga.. anything can happen. like... sasuke and itachi has the same power. madara too can do susano, amaterasu, and tsukuyomi. meaning.. obito can still have other uchiha that has the same power as his. BUT the thing is.. the only introduced uchiha that has the power of space and dimension as its mangekyou is obito though he wasn't the one that awakened it.

another thing is.. though this is not related to the question it's just that i want to tell this... how kakashi got his mangekyou? it's still a mystery but don't you think that the girl's death in minato's team where kakashi and obito were in is much more mysterious? obito and rin were kakashi's closest friends. so we could think that in obtaining kakashi's mangekyou it could be safe to say that he killed rin.
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adding to possibility of gaining of kakashi's mangekyou.. obito could be tobi before kakashi gained mangekyou and before rin died. so im implying that it could be tobi that killed rin. it's not like only tobi's sharingan will gain mangekyou (IF HE'S REALLY OBITO) the same could happen to kakashi's sharingan because both eyes came from obito. remembering what kakashi told to naruto that he failed to protect her. so maybe kakashi didn't killed her but it could be tobi (obito)
Makaih posted over a year ago
Deathmask said:
for me, I think that, Tobi wasn't Uchiha Madara, but Uchiha Obito. And there was three reason that I find out so far, for now...
1st- His name was Tobi, and if try to spell Obito name backward, and take the 'o' out, there's only left, "bito"=Tobi
2nd-Tobi sharingan eyes, entire time he's appear he always show his right eyes, not left. And plus, when Kakashi meet him, when Kakashi fight with Sasuke to help Sakura, and then Naruto came, he said to Kakashi-"Don't bother, Kakashi. That technique won't effect on me." He probably say that because, he knew his own eyes technique not going to work on himself.
3rd-When he meet Naruto in the battle field, there was a reveal that he, Tobi was not Uchiha Madara, then when Naruto ask him who the hell is he really was, he said that he was no one, and he didn't want to be anyone any more.. So it's pretty obvious that he was Obito, consider the fact that the entire Konoha village thought that Obito was dead, and that make him have no place among the Konoha village or anyone any more. So for that, it's make him no longer have identity.

That was my answer so far. But I don't know if there was different opinion in this matter. So then later!!
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for me, I think that, Tobi wasn't Uchiha Madara, but Uchiha Obito. And there was three reason that I find out so far, for now...
1st- His name was Tobi, and if try to spell Obito name backward, and take the 'o' out, there's only left, "bito"=Tobi
2nd-Tobi sharingan eyes, entire time he's appear he always show his right eyes, not left. And plus, when Kakashi meet him, when Kakashi fight with Sasuke to help Sakura, and then Naruto came, he said to Kakashi-"Don't bother, Kakashi. That technique won't effect on me." He probably say that because, he knew his own eyes technique not going to work on himself.
3rd-When he meet Naruto in the battle field, there was a reveal that he, Tobi was not Uchiha Madara, then when Naruto ask him who the hell is he really was, he said that he was no one, and he didn't want to be anyone any more.. So it's pretty obvious that he was Obito, consider the fact that the entire Konoha village thought that Obito was dead, and that make him have no place among the Konoha village or anyone any more. So for that, it's make him no longer have identity.

That was my answer so far. But I don't know if there was different opinion in this matter. So then later!!
posted over a year ago 
Hruiz said:
Tobi cannot be Madara because (spoiler alert) when sasuke kills orochimaru kabuto inserts his dna into him. So now that he has all his jutsus he starts the next great ninja war and he uses orochimarus jutsu that can revive the dead. During the war one of the past tschukage or something like that spelling... Who they think they captured, used the jutsu, then appeared in front of everyone with a revived Madara while is somewhere with kabuto... So I think tobi is obito :)
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posted over a year ago 
tonyplox said:
For one its impossible for Tobi to be Obito even though the names do have similar likenesses, but in a manga chapter and a recent episode you will see *Spoiler* Tobi fighting the paper girl from the akatuski and is shown breaking off his mask to reveal a sharingan in his left eye even though that would be the eye he gave kakashi. Im personally leaning more towards him being either madara or madaras brother
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posted over a year ago 
Qonon said:
Tobi is neither.

Obito- Obito's death took place 13 years before the main story. Tobi attacking Konoha took place 12 years before the main story. I do not Obito would attack Konoha 1 year after supposed/actual death. People say Obito can't be Tobi because he gave his Sharingan to Kakashi; It's just as plausible for him to have a transplanted sharingan, JUST LIKE KAKASHI.

Madara: He is not Madara... already confirmed in one of the latest Manga chapter. [SPOILERS] Madara Uchiha was confirmed to be in the sixth coffin, which was resurrected by Kabuto Yukashi.

With the information the manga has it is unclear who Tobi is.
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posted over a year ago 
enrique274 said:
yes obito uchiha is tobi causelook at there haie and tobi is one eyed like obito cause obito gave his other sharingan eye thats why kakashi has sharingan and kakashi tookoff his eye to they did not feel any pain cause one ofthere temates is a healer
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posted over a year ago 
hlydon1 said:
Well call me crazy but what if hes nether what if he has his own story and is someone no one really knows

maby someone itachi thought he killed but somehow tobi escaped the fate of the uchiha this would explain his hate tward the hidden leaf because he knew that the hidden leaf had ordered itachi to kill the uchiha

But this is just my idea I have up in my head and even though I like this idea (probably because I would be so sad if tobi is obito because it would just kill kakashi so much) I still think tobi might be obito
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posted over a year ago 
narutofan999 said:
Okay, listen guys, the best and most logical answer is that Tobi is Obito. Think about it, Obito lost his left eye to Kakashi, they only ever show Tobi's right eye. Yes, later in the series they show him fighting Konan, and yes, he has two, but it's more likely than anything that he stole it from one of the other people with the sharingan, also, he apperently has the ability to clone eyes or some such, because all the old kage's and people that he had Kabuto reanimate have a rinnegan and sharingan eye, and obviously there arent that many rinnegan users lying around to steal it from, and there arent many sharingan users left. Another thing you can point out are the name resemblences, but really even i dont think that means anything important. Also, tobi and obito have similar personalities, that is until tobi starts saying he's madara and goes nuts,but other than that they are pretty similar. Also, kakashi, who has one of obitos eyes, has similar powers to tobis eye, they can both do weird tricks with space and time, and when tobi shows kakashi his sharingan eye, kakashi flips out. Why would he flip out unless he showed kakashi that his mangekyo sharingan looks exactly like his own? And the reason that masashi kishimoto is saying that its madara, is cuz it is probably going to be the final plot twist, unless naruto and sasuke team up or something which is possible but unlikely. And if it was madara, why wouldnt they show his mangekyo sharingan? Hunh? Its not like he hasnt decided what its going to look like yet, masashi kishimoto already has that design and in a book, 42 or 43 i think, but tobi is never seen with it!!! The timeline also makes sense, im not saying it makes more sense than it being madara does, but here, madara would be extremely old, but he is MADARA UCHIHA, so its not impossible for it to be him fighting lord fourth, but tobi got crushed before minato even became hokage, which is proven because danzo's squad was trained by the second hokage, and they called him lord hokage still, and kakashi, rin, and obito all call him sensei or master, and minato was hokage for a few years before he fought nine tails, dont you think? So that gives Obito at least 2 or 3 years to train and get stronger, which shouldnt be that big a stretch, because thats all naruto and sasuke had and look how much stronger they got, and obito could have even had more time than that. And when Kabuto used the edo-tensei to show tobi that he had almost all the past akatsuki members bodies for reanimation, he summoned another body, now whos was that that it mad tobi so mad about??? Most likely, the real madara, since tobi's trying to be a poser madara. And alot of people are saying that obito's dead, that is not entirely true. We know he got crushed by a big rock on the right side of his body-guess who has weird wrinkles and cuts on the right side of their body too, TOBI- but even though he got crushed by a rock, it that really gunna stop him, or anyone for that matte
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r??? they are NINJAS, and if they can survive all this other crazy stuff, do you really think its impossible for and uchiha ninja to survive a rock? i dont think so. Now im not sure about this whole its obito and tobi and madara thing, its possible, maybe madara survived, and happened to be on the last of his three year cycle and found obito dying and took his body because madara was weakened and tobi would be easy to pick off, but if you have to switch bodies every 3 years, dont you think he would have gone through like at least 10 other bodies since then? well maybe hes strong enough to keep a body for like 20 years or something, cuz he is madara uchiha, but that theory isnt very likely, seeing as i think the jutsu holds the limit, not the strength of the person, plus wouldnt there be quite a few other people that were all weakened around him, that were much more suitable than a 12 year old kid with one eye??? or maybe he wanted him because he had the sharingan??? but isnt that all still pretty convenient??? to just happen to get one of the main characters best friends as a host body??? I dont know, but i am POSITIVE obito is in the mix somewhere, and i dont think its very likely that its madara at all, its probably that obito/tobi wants to have a good name for people to tremble when they hear because madara was such a boss, as opposed to laughing when they hear the name of a ninja who cried all the time and never made it to training when he was supposed to. Thats my theory, but then again, maybe masashi kishimoto is still deciding what he wants to have happen? maybe he dosnt even know and he had it all set up to be obito, then changed his mind? Maybe all of it is coincidence, and its just some random guy who is really named tobi??? i dont know, but this is my theory. thanks for reading, goodbye.
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It would have made sense that it was Obito Uchiha, but if you look closely Tobie's right eye is the only one visable right? And if you go back to the rock killing Obito then you'll see that his right eye was crushed. So it could have been a possibility and but if his right eye was crushed wouldn't that make Tobi's mask have a hole on the left side?
Neko_Princess posted over a year ago
youwishyouknew said:
Sorry, but the truth is this :

TOBI IS NOT MADARA UCHIHA

as my fellow manga reader will agree Madara is later ressurected with the Edo Tensi jutsu (he fights all 5 kages together which is really epic). His true identity is unknown. He refers to himself as "Nobody".
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posted over a year ago 
konradkorp said:
Maybe Whoever tobi is used the rinnegan to revive obito then stole his body. or maybe madara revived him with the rinnegan. If he knew Negato Madara was probably alive when obito died.
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posted over a year ago 
Neko_Princess said:
Well Tobie told Sasuke that he is Madara Uchiha. This might contain some major spoilers so if you don't want to know to read any farther...

Ok.

He told Sasuke that he is Madara and it true since Madara Uchiha is immortal. If you remember when Madara looked at Sasuke he was set in fire with amaterasu.

Itachi knew that Madara would go to Sasuke to tell him the real reason Itachi killed the Uchiha clan and Itachi wanted Sasuke to hate him forever.

But Madara lived after amaterasu had hit him. Madara Uchiha was also the one to make the nine tailed fox go to destroy konoha and that was around the time Naruto was born and now Madara shows himself after so many years which prooves that he must be immortal...

Well that's what i've got! XD
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posted over a year ago 
MrGenius said:
i think TOBI is OBITO!! he gave his left eye to kakashi. and you all know tobi use his right sharingan to move to other dimension and teleport other place.. if you watch naruto shippuden episode when madara still alive fighting with kakashiand naruto, kakashi use his sharingan to transfer madara left to other place. this meant that kakashi has same eye like tobi.. conclusion, tobi IS obito..
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posted over a year ago 
bingokill said:
How can it be Obito when half of his bodie GOT SMASH COMPELTELY? fucking idiots get smart -.-
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That's what I was thinking, but I guess we have to be open to all possibilities :l
Shi_Hiroko posted over a year ago
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I think madara is some one who is a uchiha knew abt the deccision and went out the village came back nxt day seen it all disposed n sht -.- wanted revenge
bingokill posted over a year ago
TheTruth101 said:
yes he is based on the manga today only obito would talk to kakashi in the manners of an old friend and here is the prove and this prove is the only prove needed to determine who madara or tobi is none other then your truly obito...
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yes he is based on the manga today only obito would talk to kakashi in the manners of an old friend and here is the prove and this prove is the only prove needed to determine who madara or tobi is none other then your truly obito...
posted over a year ago 
Hinata9-8 said:
Tobi is neither Madara,which was already dead and summoned by Kabuto,nor Obito,for the reason why do he wants to destroy eveyone he loves most,peace.Maybe Tobi is more sinister,so don't worry we have maybe more than 5 chapters away to revealing who Tobi really is cause Might Guy cracked a part of his mask.
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posted over a year ago 
Katcurbstomp said:
I don't think it's either. Most likely it's Madara's brother actually. I mean it can't be Madara since he was reincarnated in the war by Kabuto, and it couldn't be Obito because he died at the age of 13 and the entire right side of his body was crushed by the rock that killed him. Paralyzing him in his final moments and that means even if he was alive which he most likely isn't his right eye would also be gone or damaged and he'd have mobility problems. and I'e seen people claim it was the sage of 6 paths, also unlikely. Tobi supported evil things where as the sage traveled all over spreading the message of peace and trying to end wars, where as tobi tries to create them to gain ultimate power of the sharingan. So by default the most likely identity of tobi is Madara's little brother.
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posted over a year ago 
919ali9936 said:
Ok, let me tell u guys something. I've been reading the manga n I just found out that Tobi is obito uchiha. Let me explain.
#1 Madara was resurrected by kabuto's Edo tensei. When fighting the five kages he explain the whole battle against the first hokage. He lost the battle but didn't die. Read the manga n y'all see what I'm talking about.
#2 It did look that obito died but it never showed him really dead. Maybe he's body was found half dead n someone help him out n heal him. My theory, madara's brother raised him n showed him the history of the uchiha clan.with the help of zetzu's power he got his body fixed.
#3 kakashi got his left sharingan from obito which power he discover himself, the mangekyo sharingan. He calls it Kamui. Tobi has a similar power. It has been told in the manga.
#4 I just found that tobi is obito. It's in the latest chapter.
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posted over a year ago 
dyang5 said:
Obito is Tobi. Two reasons, one: Madara is alive, well dead but living due to the edo tensai. And two: kakashi and the "masked" man has the same space traveling jutsu, and in one picture from the latest manga they both have the same sharingan eye shape. Kakashi got his eye from obito therefore obito is Tobi and vice versa.
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posted over a year ago 
Antwannkiddo said:
tobi is obito
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tobi is obito
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DarkJules posted over a year ago
shikamarunara said:
Ok guys, those of u who said tobi is madara, u r WRONG. he is obito. if u people bother to read manga instead of being lazy and only watch the episodes, u would know that tobi is Uchiha Obito. its in chapter 599. god. u guys really need to read this its much better than the anime. Anyway, tobi's hair is just like obito, his right eye contains the sharingan and kakashi's left contains the same sharingan. i mean tobi could be madara using tobi's body for all we know. u just have to wait and see there is no other way. and as u can see from the picture that the guy before me posted, TOBI IS OBITO. I can't wait for kakashi's reactions!!! DRAMA BOMB!!! lol
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posted over a year ago 
obito987 said:
i think both of them read manga chapter 600 there is both obito and madara when tobi mask cracked it was obito but who fought the fourth hokage? Obito is still a small kid how could he fight the fourth hokage? so i think madara is the one who fought the fourth hokage and gave the mask to obito when he grows up
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i think both of them read manga chapter 600 there is both obito and madara when tobi mask cracked it was obito but who fought the fourth hokage? Obito is still a small kid how could he fight the fourth hokage? so i think madara is the one who fought the fourth hokage and gave the mask to obito when he grows up
posted over a year ago 
dialga_time said:
well bros and sis's. after doing some research on the manga, and seeing chapter 599 and 600, also studying tobi,

i came up with a conclusion that tobi is obito and zetsu!, obito's body is made up of zetsu's and because of the zetsu inside of him, zetsu is playing a role in obito's character,

making him evil and corrupted, also zetsu would be able to change obito's body appearance, being basically a vessel for obito, he could change himself to look similar to madara.

that would explain how kisame knew the short hair tobi as the long haired one he met in the past, and both long haired and short haired tobi having the ''same voice'' that explains tobi being grown up and not some little boy, i believe that obito being controlled by zetsu was the one who attacked konoha 16 years ago their both had the same voice, the same space time migration, as well as being the tobi who killed the uchiha clan with itachi.

it would not make sense if obito was told these stories, obito acts like if he lived in these eras, how would obito know so much about madara if madara in fact created zetsu! and zetsu being apart of obito, obito gained his knowledge about madara, being able to know everything about madara, hashirama and possibly the sage of six paths and the juubi,

hope i answered your question and shown you the proofs ^-^
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posted over a year ago 
La0boi said:
Ok so im going over this so many times i still cant 100 percent say who it is since i havnt finished the series in the manga or the anime. but somethings are bothering me. Tobi being madara, tobi being obito or is both. from what i can tell atm i believe he is madara. thats how he revealed himself as of right now. im sticking to this because madara was the founder of the leaf. at that time he was already well aged and only getting older this was during the reign of the first hokage. obito appears later on with minato who ends up being the the fourth hokage. so what im getting at is how can tobi be obito if his story is being madara. my biggest problem of obito being madara is in the wiki (pss geyest way to get info) it CLAIMS that obito ends up going by the alias of madara. and yet the time for both of their lifes dont match up. mayb im missing something, or mayb hes just lieing all together. or mayb i just need to keep watching on. but this is just my take on the situation at the moment.
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posted over a year ago 
NaruSaku112 said:
TOBI IS MADARA! Madara is just pretending to be "Tobi" and the other akatsuki members didn't know until Kisame and Zetsu were the last ones alive!(besides madara and well u get my point!) He confesed to Kisame that he is madara and he uses Zetsu in the 4th great ninja war!
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posted over a year ago 
Thatguy213 said:
I would like to add a theory of my own. I don't have much evidence supporting this theory but it just seems to fit. Maybe Tobi is Obito and Obito is nothing but a puppet of Rikodu Senin. Maybe the sage of six paths hasn't revealed himself yet and is letting Obito handle things until it's necessary to show himself. The sage of six paths always wanted peace and started the ninja world. The ninja world caused a lot of hate and war and things got even worse. So the sage of six paths seeing that he had created all this hate and world realizes the there is no way to obtain true peace. He decides since I created the ninja world I should be the one to end it. I've bred so much hate and war and it's time to finally end it all. Therefore he starts the moon project to enslave the people into a genjutsu and force peace upon them. Because since there is no such thing as true peace then the next best thing is artificial peace. Some people may not think it's possible because he was just too good a person but think of this: He created the ninja world in the hope it would bring peace, but instead it brought more hate and more wars. It did the complete opposite, which to him meant there really was no hope of true peace. Once again just a theory with little evidence but it's not Madara Uchiha seeing as Kabuto has his body and uses it in his reanimation jutsu and it can't be Obito alone because when the Kyuubi attacked Konoha Kakashi was still just a kid meaning that if Obito survived the boulders then he was still a kid. The person who summoned the nine tailed fox on the other hand was a man and a very powerful one. So he attacked the hidden leaf village and got away and is now manipulating Obito while he lays back.
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posted over a year ago 
Uchiha-Obito said:
I am tobi and my proofs are
1, i'm not sure 'bout this but in the naruto wiki when i type in Uchiha Obito it brings tobi's face so.
2, There is no footage in THE WORLD showing that obito is dead just crushed in his right side
3, when tobi goes to fight konan *to get nagato's rinnegan and put it in his left eye socket* she cuts of his arm and his mask his face is Shown and he's a copy of Obito's father's face so like father like son and it can't be his father cuz he's 100% dead and he would be too old.
4, for those who say obito is just a child now if he is alive *which i think cuz he's tobi* he would be just the same age as kakashi and tobi is almost the same age as kakashi.
5, this is stupid but both obito and tobi wear orange.
6, this is kinda silly to but Obito if you remove the first O and but the (to) in the first it spells out Tobi
7,Tobi when 1st came out in the manga he didn't talk to anyone!!! the first character he talked to was kakashi and i quote *almost the same quote if not by words then by meaning* "those who betray the law(abandon their missions) are trash and those hwo turn their backs on their friends are worse than trash and then i'd rather be a trash" that's what kakashi's father EXCATLY did that's why kakashi covers his face.
8, again to those who say prove us obito is still alive there are a lot of people who say this revived that and that revived that but the most 2 common ones are Madara Uchiha used Hashirama's cells and those who say oruchimaru did using hashirama's cells BUT the most common one is Madara because he also told Obito to repay me you must serve me obito refused saying i wanna go back to my friends and kakashi (since they're friends now) he didn't say no. he (with a grin said) go and you'll come back then when he was going he saw Kakashi killing Rin.
MOST People say madara because he was grinning when he said you'll come back used a really strong Genjutsu so curse his eyes to make him see that kakashi killed her but he really didn't and others say madara let him go because he knows what will happen and it's not an illusion so Obito went back and resumed his service. Hope this helped.
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posted over a year ago 
anish988 said:
Guys..... It's obito uchiha. It is in the manga and it shows how he survived. If u don't believe me.... Read the naruto manga title obito and madara. It shows that madara was reanimated and madara helped obito live by using a zetsu for the other half body. And obito's technique uses the kamui.
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posted over a year ago 
XxcoolheatxX said:
I think that obito is madara and just changed his name to madara then to tobi for commiting crimes and felonies not to get caght (like he will)
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posted over a year ago 
nagato821 said:
Tobi actually Obito Uchiha to me
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posted over a year ago 
speid007 said:
All your people that are saying tobi is madara are retardid and ignorant tobi is actually obito go on narutowiki and you will ready that madara rescued obito from under the bolder and madara taught obito several jutsu before he died
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posted over a year ago 
chieves said:
If you have seen Tobi's Mangekyou you would seen that Tob's Mangekyou sharingan is the sam sharingan that kakashi has and kakashi got his sharingan from obito so the only possible person it could be is obito.
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posted over a year ago 
andrew4753 said:
it is obito uchihah

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posted over a year ago 
RooBois said:
Tobi is Obito because there's O-bi-to, so backwards it's To-bi
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posted over a year ago 
ShadowSlayers said:
The author of naruto magna has confirmed that tobi is just pretending to be madara but he is really is obito and was following his grandfather's goal. I am not saying who is his grandfather because it will spoil the surprise, i know this because i read latest magna published in japan.
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posted over a year ago 
kenju said:
tobi is obito..
real madara is resurrected with edo tensei 3 episodes ago.the one who first instructed himself as tobi/madara is obito .
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posted over a year ago 
badyzko123 said:
i think obito can do became madara after all he knows how to suck madara corps to his eye like he did to pain its his jutsu remember>>>^_^
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posted over a year ago 
UNLIMITEDXD said:
Tobi is obito cause madara had been recreated using that jutsu during the war. I also think obito being tobi is in the manga
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posted over a year ago 
mp3geek said:
am pretty sure its Obito but at first I thought it was madara then i talked to my Naruto buddy asking the same thing!
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posted over a year ago 
dopeepsevencare said:
It is confirmed that Tobi is ramen guy! XD

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It is confirmed that Tobi is ramen guy! XD
posted over a year ago 
ParisofSuna said:
Obito Uchiha is indeed Tobi. Tobi is telling everyone that he is Madara, that is not true because Madara died years back. Tobi is still determined to follow Madara's plans though. Tobi will not be resurrecting Madara because he simply does not care for the old bag of dust.
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