Why Twilight is better than Harry Potter-The real reasons you asked for.

harry potter has real love too
love is the book's main theme

And it's more then romance love

there's friendship love and family love (and gay love haha)

Hermione has flaws which is what you would say are "problems"
What bella struggles with is, in my opionion, really crappy.

she's totally emo and really, all she can think about is edward
you make it sound as if what hermione does is nothing.

you made it sound negative

the right way to put it is
"hermione would go through any limits to help Harry"

and Harry doesn't drag people around in his problems, he didn't even ask for it

instead, he feels as if all those deaths were his fault
all those people involved WANTED to be in it

and what is wrong with depressing books? they add a deep level of emotion in them.

twilight made me feel nothing

you're reasons are really shallow

but thx for tryin!

Twilight is not about love. It is about lust. Bella is always going on about how 'hot' Edward is. Lily died to save Harry's life, begging, I repeat, begging for Voldemort to kill her instead. If that isn't mother-son love, I don't know what is. Nymphadora announced in public her love for Remus, that she didn't care if he was a were-wolf and could physically harm her, she loved him, and said that is all that matters. Andromeda Tonks was blasted of the Black family tree and not one of her relatives would speak to her ever again (except for Sirius) because she married a Muggle-born. Now that's love.

Hermione isn't weak (weak, not week), she's one of the strongest characters I know. Bella does not struggle, her bf does everything for her. And she just does the cooking and cleaning. Hermione, on the other hand, struggles a lot. In OotP, Umbridge's IS (Inquisitorial Squad) was nearly choking her, but she came up with a fabulous lie to go and save Sirius. In the Malfoy Manor, Bellatrix was torturing her but she still came up with a plan to get everyone out safe. Has Bella ever been tortured wand-point? (Or knife-point?) She really cares about her grades, obviously, making her an excellent role-model. She has to deal with continuous prejudice because she is a Muggle-born, but she still stays strong through it all.

Harry doesn't drag everyone into his problems, he hardly accepts help. Everyone goes with him because they love and support him, and they know he's going to win. He is a true hero, while Edward has never done anything heroic, he wasn't even the one to kill James (vampire)!

Yeah, guess what? This is life. People die. So why can't books be realistic and have people - from the good side and bad - die? Voldemort is the villain, he is supposed to kill people and be evil. You don't know what a true villain is like, but they sure aren't like James or the Volturi. Life is depressing, do you ever watch the news? People die. Just as they do in books. Harry Potter helps you get ready for that fact: people die. It's good, it makes you stronger so you can handle it.

One word: Shallow.

I now hope you can see sense and see why HP is better than Twilight.

Have you read the books? I'm assuming by these outlandish claims that that is a very large NO. Well, let me correct some points you have (FYI, I've read bothseries):

First of all, Twilight is about love. Real love. From what I understand, the "love" in Harry Potter isn't much. Edward would do anything for Bella. Die for her. How I see it, I know Ron and Hermionie get together, but he seems like a horrible person for her.

Point in case you've never read the books. The entire Harry Potter series is based on the fact that love is the strongest thing out there. Harry's mother and father sacrificed their lives to save him. Harry sacrificed his own life to save the entire world. Severus Snape spent seventeen years (and changed his entire life around) for a woman whom he loved almost his entire life (and who never loved him back). Ginny Weasley risked her life because her family was in danger and she wanted to help. Tonks gave up her life in order to help her husband. The Weasley's risked thier lives in order to protect their youngest son's best friend because they considered him a son as well.That is real love and it is present throughout every single book.

And while I was talking about Hermionie, here's something else. She's a week character. Unlike Bella, who struggles every day. Hermionie has no problems, the only things she has are self-created. She follows Harry into his troubles. Big whoop.

What struggles does Bella have? She doesn't struggle in school or with making friends. She got the "most gorgeous, perfect, awesome" man in high school without any challenge whatsoever. Hermione is constantly prejudiced against because she is muggle-born - not something she could control (but, hey, that's only evident throughout every book). She's picked on at school for being smart (what, is she supposed to dumb herself down?).

And Harry, unkile Edward, drags everyone arround him into his own problems. That's horrible for someone whose suposed to be the hero!

Again, this is only evident if you've read the books: Harry has never, ever, once dragged anyone into his problems. They, despite the fact that every time one comes up tells them to leave and let him deal with it, follow him and help him willingly. As they have said in -oh. Wait. You wouldn't know how often they've all said that wanted to help him. And, please. Edward dragged his whole family into the James/Victoria problem (the only problem he had in the entire series that he didn't entirely bring upon himself). Oh. Wait. What's that you say? They helped because they wanted to? Because they cared about him? Hm, what an interesting concept.

And Voldemort, he's just violent!

Because he's the bad guy. It's what (real) bad guys do. No, not the ones in Twilight who sit in Italy and do nothing, real bad guys. It's why they are called "bad guys."

I hear a lot of people die, who wants to read about that?

People who want to read a realistic, believable story? Unfortunately, not everyone who goes into war comes out of it.

I mean, people die in Twilight, but come on, those are small things readers can handle. But Harry Potter? That's just depressing.

Who died in Twilight??? James, Victorie, Laurent, and that chick from the other coven. And they were all the "enemies." Again, in Harry Potter, people from all sides die. It's realistic and believable. It draws you into the story and leaves you with that bitter-sweet, satisfied feeling at the end. Unlike Twilight, where everything works out perfectly fine and everyone gets a perfectly happy ending. Blah. I like sugary sweet - but that's stuff for tiny, fragile tots who aren't old enough to understand the concept of war and death (ya know, like, six year olds?).

If you're going to say why something is better than something else, you might want to know (at least a little bit) about both things that you're comparing.

Yes, well in books that are actually good, the good guys win! What kind of book is it if good guys die?

Harry Potter triumphed over Voldemort - the "good guys" did win. The books that have people die are, again, believable. Have you ever heard of a war where no one died? Nope. Know why? Because it doesn't happen.

J.K. killing off good characters (and bad characters and characters in between) drew readers in. We cheered when the villains got it and cried when the good guys were killed. We were anxious to see who would come out alive and which side would triumph. It made it suspenseful, action-packed and dramatic. Like a good book should be.

it brings more emotion
& many great novels have good people dying, like little women(beth)
its what adds to the drama
better to have the good guys die then to let them all live in a book when facing a life or death issue ESPECIALLY WHEN IT'S A "BEST-SELLING NOVEL"

Twilight was also a bestselling novel, and has a bigger fan base than Harry Potter

i WAS talkin about twilight
i was saying that the fact that its a "best-selling novel", should have at least have a level of emotion in it, but twilight doesn't

and if twilight has a bigger fanbase, then explain why this spot is made up of mostly hp fans

& you wanna know why the twilight spot has more fans?
well ive searched on many hp fans who liked the book more then twilight and they joined the twilight spot too
i think they wanted to bash it (i bashed it without joinin!) or they jus joined it b/c it was a minor interest to them

ps. i notice u didnt respond to any of the points me, harrypotterbest, & bri-marie made

interesting............

Hello there sweetie. I just read your amusing little attempt to defend Twilight against Harry Potter, and I must say, it was absolutely hilarious. I do commend you for using proper spelling and grammar, and not speaking in all capitals, but the content of your "reasons" are ridiculous to the point of being laughable. Well, then lets get the fun part where I contradict all your (easily debatable) “arguments.”

“First of all, Twilight is about love. Real love. From what I understand, the "love" in Harry Potter isn't much. Edward would do anything for Bella. Die for her. How I see it, I know Ron and Hermionie get together, but he seems like a horrible person for her”

Harry Potter’s plot revolves around the idea of love triumphing over evil. Harry’s mother died to protect him. This act of devotion and selflessness left a mark upon him, powerful enough to destroy the evil threatening him. This protection remained in his blood, and ultimately what allowed him to defeat Voldemort. Now tell me this, a mother dying for her child, is considered “not love,” but two people in lust for purely superficial reasons is? Which brings me to this “loving” relationship between Stephanie Mayer - oh - sorry, I mean Bella Swan and Edward Cullen. The relationship between these two people is not love. What do Bella and Edward have in common? What do they like to do together? Besides look at each other and talk about how much they love each other. She is in love with him simply because he’s beautiful, (we are never given any indication otherwise) and he loves her because she smells good and he wants to eat her. Huh? How is that romance? The characters have no real reason for being together, it’s an obsession based purely on physical attraction, which is called lust, not love. I would also like to refer you to Harrypotterbest’s comment about Remus and Tonks, which I think also qualifies as “real love,” as opposed to teenage lust. So, sorry but FAIL.


And while I was talking about Hermionie, here's something else. She's a week character. Unlike Bella, who struggles every day. Hermionie has no problems, the only things she has are self-created. She follows Harry into his troubles. Big whoop.

Is this a joke? She struggles with prejudice, and being a “mud blood,” being discriminated against, and in book seven, tortured simply for being muggle born. And yet, she a very strong character. She fought with them until the end, and helped them several times when they were backed into a corner. If it wasn’t for her, they never would have made it passed the devil’s snare in book one. Bella “struggles every day?” huh? Because her boyfriend left her? Your going to have to do better than that. You imply Bella is a strong character, but you make yourself look like a moron, simply by saying that. Bella is weak, weaker than any character ever written. She fell apart when her boyfriend left her, and went into a depression, she is incapable of doing anything for herself, and always needs her boyfriend to fix things when they go wrong. How is that a strong character? She’s weak. Really weak. And if you identify with her, you are weak too. You say the only problems Hermione has are “self created.” Please explain what you meant there? Examples please? “She follows Harry’s troubles,” yeah, because they are close friends, and she helps him out with his problems. Not sure why you see that as a character flaw. Once again, FAIL.

“And Harry, unlike Edward, drags everyone arround him into his own problems. That's horrible for someone whose suposed to be the hero!”


Alright, I’m not taking you seriously anymore. You clearly have never so much as glanced at a page of Harry Potter. Harry always denies help, he prefers to do everything alone. He has never “dragged others into his problems.” Do you have an example of when he did this? No? FAIL


“And Voldemort, he's just violent! I hear a lot of people die, who wants to read about that? I mean, people die in Twilight, but come on, those are small things readers can handle. But Harry Potter? That's just depressing.”


Yeah, a lot of people die because it’s about a war. That’s what happens in war, people die. It’s realistic. And frankly that’s a poor argument. Many movies tv show, and books have a bad guy who kills a lot of good guys.

“The only good thing I find about Harry Potter is that Robert Pattinson plays Cedric. And I have no idea why he did that.”

Pattinson prefers Harry Potter over Twilight. Just letting you know.

You know, I’m not sure this was supposed to be taken seriously. It seems like these “arguments” were written to sound as childish as possible, and you clearly have never read any of the books. Now, if this was a joke, like that Preppy Gurl thing just to see how we would react, then it’s actually very clever. If you are serious, then, well thanks for the lulz.

how long did it take for u to write this?

@PotterForever have you even read Twilight? And Pattinson does not prefer Harry Potter over Twilight, where did you hear that? And I don't know what the heck Preppy Gurl is, but if you were trying to insult me, that's rude. It's the haters on here that are immature.


And @luv_warriorcatz, why does it matter?

I notice how you arent actually commenting on any of the points I made. Interesting.

Here is Mr. Pattinson's opinion on Twilight:

"When I read it I was convinced Stephenie was convinced she was Bella and it was like it was a book that wasn't supposed to be published. It was like reading her sexual fantasy, especially when she said it was based on a dream and it was like, 'Oh I've had this dream about this really sexy guy,' and she just writes this book about it. Like some things about Edward are so specific, I was just convinced, like, 'This woman is mad. She's completely mad and she's in love with her own fictional creation.' And sometimes you would feel uncomfortable reading this thing."
- Robert Pattinson.

i just wanted to know, it seemed really long geez
& did u listen to the last last message i gave you?

"i notice u didnt respond to any of the points me, harrypotterbest, & bri-marie made

interesting............ "

we're contradictin your reasons with facts and you're not even defendin yourself

whenever we give specific reasons, like potterforever, you just respond "pattison doesn't like harry potter better"

really?

and just to let you know, we ALL read twilight
and we still think it's horrible
the question is did you read harry potter?

why won't you try and contradict our reasons instead?

I dont know, I think this is a joke. Didn't Preppy Gurl also have a Katy Perry icon?.......

Alright, reasons: if Harry Potter really is about love, why is everyone so happy to see death? It's sick! And Hermionie even if she is teased about being a mud blood or whatever its called, she has a choice. She could quit Hogwarts or something. Bella has no choice, she is in love. And Harry is a fool, he always gets himself in trouble. Half his problems he created himself. And as with Voldemort, that war is not realistic! That never happens, at least not now. That's just horrible that someone would write about death as if it was an "okay thing". And also, Harry Potter is poorly written. There's always too much going on at one time.

But, you never read it.
Which makes this whole thing pointless.

How do you know if I read it or not?

The truth is I read the first few, a while ago. I only did it because all my friends were doing it, and recomended it to me. They were horrible, as were the movies. All those actors are cheap. I'm so glad that most people have outgrown their Harry Potter obsession, and moved on to more mature things. I see you didn't, and I'm sorry for you.

Alright, well out of sheer boardem I'm going to contradict your new "reasons."

1. Nobody is happy to see death, preppy gurl, they are horrified by it all.

2. Why would she quite school because she is being teased? She stands up for herself.

3. Sorry, did he kill his parents? How exactally does he "create his problems himself?" Provide examples please.

4. What never happens? Wars? They happen.

5. Death is presented as horrific, not as an "okay thing."

if Harry Potter really is about love, why is everyone so happy to see death? It's sick!

Please point out where someone said they were happy about death? I said "realistic" not happy.

And Hermionie even if she is teased about being a mud blood or whatever its called, she has a choice. She could quit Hogwarts or something. Bella has no choice, she is in love.

Quite school and not learn how to control and hone her powers? Great choice, really. Since you haven't read the books, there are several examples of what happens when wizards lose control of their powers and it usually ends in disaster. Hermione's parents are muggles, (non magical people) so they can't teach her. She really has no choice.


And Harry is a fool, he always gets himself in trouble. Half his problems he created himself.

I was not aware that Harry made Voldemort kill his parents when he was a year old. How shocking! That's where all Harry's problems come from - the fact that Voldemort wants to kill him due to a prophecy that was made before Harry was born. Again with not knowing what you're talking about.

And as with Voldemort, that war is not realistic! That never happens, at least not now. That's just horrible that someone would write about death as if it was an "okay thing".

I find it funny that you say that the war you didn't read about isn't realistic. What part wasn't realistic? The part where people died? If that's not realistic to you, please tell me what country you live in, because I would love to live there.

And also, Harry Potter is poorly written.

Yes, correct grammer and spelling and using the right words. Having an actual plot and character development. Characters that are human (in other words, flawed). Such a poorly written book

There's always too much going on at one time.

Right. 'Cuz, in life, things always happen in a neat, orderly fashion, one thing right after another.

What the shit is preppy gurl? Why are you calling me that? Is this some sort of insult?

Well, as for Harry creating his own problems, in the 5th movie he went to the ministry and started a fight.


And wars do happen, just not overly violent ones like those.


And if death is suposed to be presented as horrific, how come so many people die in Harry Potter?

And also, if you call me a Preppy Gurl or a joke one more time, I'm going to lose it on you!

We know you didn't read it because your "reasons" are explicitly stated in every single Harry Potter book.

j k rowling didn't write death as an okay thing
listen to this description of dobby's and fred's death:

And Hermione was struggling to her feet in the wreckage, and three redheaded men were grouped on the ground where the wall had blasted apart. Harry grabbed Hermione’s hand as they staggered and stumbled over stone and wood.

“No – no – no!” someone was shouting. “No! Fred! No!”

"And Percy was shaking his brother, and Ron was kneeling beside them, and Fred’s eyes stared without seeing, the ghost of his last laugh still etched upon his face."

"And then with a little shudder the elf became quite still, and his eyes were nothing more than great glassy orbs, sprinkled with light from the stars they could not see"

does that sound normal?

these people are facing life and death situations and its impossible for someone NOT to die

WHY THE HELL WOULD HERMIONE QUIT HOGWARTZ?! only a weak character would quit their education because people tease them because of their birth

honestly.....

"There's always too much going on at one time."
you're saying that harry potter is poorly written because there are many things going on.....

can u hear yourself?

thats what ppl would call a complicated plot

Harry gets in trouble because
- he cant help it, hes a flawed character just like anyone else, he likes to sneak around like me!
- if you'r referring to the war, the prophesy made him like that, he makes trouble to defeat voldemort like when he invaded gringotts to get the horcrux

and wat do you mean by the war is not realistic

its a fantasy

deal with it

Again, please tell me what war you have ever heard of that wasn't violent? Were people didn't die and get hurt?

It's not presented as horrific - it's presented as a way of life. Something that needs to happen, not something that you should be afraid of or not think about.

And Harry left for the Ministry because he thought his god-father (the only family he has) was in serious danger. He went to save him and found out last minute that he'd been tricked.

I did read some of it gosh! And also, have you read Twilight? I doubt it. And as for Harry being a fool, his character is so unrealistic! He acts like he's the innocent one, he has problems too!

And another thing, Harry kills Voldemort! What kind of story is it when the good guy kills someone for no reason! When Edward did kill a few people, he was protecting Bella. Harry had no reason!

No reason? Alright you are clearly kidding. Guys it's a joke.

@bri-made, he should have known it was just a trick. It was awfly childish of him, to think his dreams were reality. Damn, if my dreams were reality, I'd have Rob and Taylor in my room, and Harry Potter woulden't exist.

And @luv_worriorcatz, why would she go to hogwarts in the first place if she knew she had no magical ability and was going to be teased? And what kind of book is it when there are way to many things going on? A poorly written one, like the auther can't make up her mind. Also, the whole way it's written is poor. Harry Potter is just terrible, that's all.

@PotterForever, stop calling me a joke! What if I called you a joke?

Actually, if you'd read my first comment, I state that I have, indeed, read Twilight. I used to be a fan.

Now you're arguing for the sake of arguing. If you've read the book, you surely didn't understand it. Harry has never acted innocent. Ever.

Another thing that proves you did not read/understand the books. Voldemort killed both Harry's parents and hundreds of other people. He tried to kill Harry himself seven times. he killed and tortured people because they were not "pure-bloods": children, teenagers, adults, men, women. He took over the ministry and imposed his twisted views (he made a chair out of f ing bodies!) unto the wizarding world. I think that's plenty of justification to kill him.

"A few people"? Edward killed Victoria. Emmet and Jasper killed James, the wolves killed Laurent, none of the Volturi died . . and that everyone that threatened Bella's life. Victoria does not count as "as few people."

It's a joke, everything she says is more ridiculous than the last thing she said. Stop replying to her. Your arguments are invalid, Preppy Gurl.

But you are a joke. A hilarious one.

Again, going back to the book you didn't read/understand: Harry had a mental connection to Voldemort. It allowed him to see what Voldemort was doing when Voldemort was feeling a particularly strong emotion. He didn't know Voldemort knew about the connection and had made up this "vision" to lure him to the Ministry to get the prophecy. He thought it was a real vision, just like the others he'd had, and risked his life to save his godfather.

Someone really needs to invent some type of raid that effects trolls, PotterForever. badly. And quickly.

Guys, stop, it's like arguing with a wall. You won't get anywhere with her. Don't waste your time.

you said you read some of it
not all of it?

and for your info we have read it
all 4 of them

you want proof, i'll give you a summary (not much lol)

you just said 'what kind of book has the good guys beaten"
now you say 'what kind of book does the good guy beat the bad guy"

your responses are stupid and you should consider reading ALL OF THE HP BOOKS if you want to antagonize it

voldemort has been killing his friends, family, and the closest thing he had nest to a family, dumbledore and he was gonna keep killing harry's best friends

what should he have done to protect them other then killing voldemort?

should he hav tried talking to him? like that'll work........

What I mean is the Cullens had reason for killing all those people. They took Bella in as part of the family, it was sweet.


And I get that Voldemort killed a lot of people, but that still dosen't give Harry the right to go kill him. Killing is wrong, period. Unless it is self-defence, like in Twilight. The Harry Potter series fails to capture that.


And what else is disturbing is that Harry and Voldemort share thaughts, which makes Harry just as bad. I start to question who the bad guy really is.

do you take pills?
drugs?
we're very concerned

Succesfull, troll is successful

And no one has answered my question, WHAT IS AN EFFING PREPPY GURL? Is that some sort of insult to Twilight fans? And just because I have an opinion dosen't make me a joke!

If i remember correctly, thanks to Edward Bella is chased by Victoria, the Vulturis, Lauren, etc. In harry potter, they choose to help him. In twilight, she can't get out of troubles even if she wants.

P.D: I bet you can't tell me the greatest fight between Bella and anybody without being like anything compared to the worst of Hermione.

It's not Edwards fault he's in love!

And @PotterForever, I KNOW you did not just call me a troll! I find it funny that a HARRY POTTER fan said that!

Oh, sweetheart, you made yourself a joke with that ridiculous article.

are you taking marijuana right now?

Why? Because a hp fan said that?

Because I have yet to meet a Harry Potter fan over the age of 10 that has a life. And I think you are the one on drugs, just like you precious Daniel Ratcliffe

Also, you are a joke for thinking this childish Harry Potter crap compares to Twilight.

im jus askin her

she jus sounds drunk.......
i take health & gettin drunk is serious
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O RLY? And I have yet to meet a twilight fan who has intelligent reasons why it's better than HP.

Preppy Gurl (since you're too lazy to look it up) is a girl who wrote a fake review about how "great" and "wonderful" Twilight was and how it was better than Harry Potter. Her reasons were stupid and shallow (much like yours) and it turned out to be fake in the end.

The reason I think PotterForever (and, please, Potter, feel free to correct me if I'm wrong) keeps calling you that is because your reasons are shallow, pointless, and contradictory.

Wow, you are truly itiotic.

And by the way, this is the Harry Potter vs. Twilight spot, not an Anti-Twilight spot.

Sweetie, the facts don't lie.

"Jo Rowling is a terrific writer, while Stephanie Meyer can't write worth a darn" Stephen King, a literature expert.