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Johnny & Winona - true love.

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Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder.

~ Their relationship – 1989 to 1993. ~

Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder – a couple known by most people as one of the most publicised couples of the 90’s. When their eyes first met at the ‘Great Balls of Fire!’ Premiere in New York, they knew it was love at first sight. Johnny couldn't help but notice the dark brown velvet eyes that flickered adorably, or the gorgeous bopped black hair that was swept away from her forehead to offset the pale porcelain skin that he thought echoed visages of a young Elizabeth Taylor with an equally enviable body.
“It was a classic glance,” raved Johnny, “like that zoom lens in West Side Story when everything else gets foggy.”
“It wasn't,” Winona said, “a long moment, but it was suspended.”
A couple of months later, Josh Richman, a mutual friend, dragged Winona into Johnny’s hotel room. She watched entranced by the charm that had caused much of American girlhood to fall for him, and was even more enamoured of the intelligence that his smart, sensitive ‘21 Jump Street’ role had seemed to imbue him with.
“I thought maybe he would be a jerk. I didn’t know,” said Winona, “but he was really, really shy.”
Almost before they even knew what was happening, they arranged to meet each other again.
“When I first met Winona and we fell in love, it was absolutely like nothing before. We hung out the whole day and night, and we’ve been handing out ever since. I love her more than anything in the world.”
Winona made it clear, however, that she wouldn’t be diving in too quick, saying she had “read horror stories about what happens when you do.”
But she underestimated the strength of her own emotions. Five months after they met, Johnny gave Winona an engagement ring, and a month later, the couple were living together, even if it was in a succession of hotels and rented apartments. “I have beds, tables, chairs, a TV set,” said Johnny, “And they're mine, and I have Winona. That's all I need.”
Johnny Depp and Winona Ryder - it was a relationship made in tabloid heaven. Winona was young, sweet, charming, a child. Johnny, on the other hand, was a hell-raising party monster. Well, according to the press he was. All the same, the gossip columnists couldn't go wrong. Even Timothy Leary would later describe Johnny as both ‘wild and charitable' and although Winona focused on the charitable side, the Hollywood insiders found Johnny's apparent past and presumably future indiscretions of considerably greater interest.
There was the fact that he had been married and divorced, engaged twice more, and would even spread his engagement to Winona into a trilogy of breakups and reconciliations, affirmed by the number of times Winona's engagement ring came off and went back on again.
Indeed, it was Johnny's romantic past and presumably future that was the number one concern. Manhattan was even stricken by a brief craze after the announcement of his betrothal to Winona, in which car bumper stickers appeared demanding, HONK IF YOU'VE NEVER BEEN ENGAGED TO JOHNNY DEPP. Not that it bothered him - or did it? “I'll just answer that I was engaged to Sherilyn, I was engaged to Winona, and I was engaged to Jennifer Grey. But a lot was written about that shit, and it was taken to another level and it was turned into some kind of horrible joke.”
“I've never been one of those guys who goes out and screws everything that's in front of him. When you're growing up, you go through a series of misjudgements. Not bad choices, but wrong choices. People make mistakes. We all fuck up. I was really young for the longest time. My relationships weren't as heavy as people think they were. I don't know what it is, possibly I am trying to rectify my family's situation, or I was just madly in love. There's been nothing throughout my 27 years that has been comparable to the feeling I have with Winona. There's something inside me that knows really well, that no one else has ever known, or will ever know. Life is trial and error, but when you find the one who's really it, there's no mistaking it.” That, Johnny explained, was why he was going to get Winona's name tattooed on his arm for $75.
When Winona heard that news, her initial response was excitement and pride. “I was thrilled when he got the tattoo,” Winona sighed. “Wouldn't any woman be?” It was only later that her interest turned to apprehension. As she waited at Sunset Strip Tattoo – ‘Tattooers of the Stars Since 1971' - while Johnny's ‘Winona Forever' double-banner tattoo was engraved into his right bicep to match the tribute to his mother on his left, those feelings grew stronger.
At the same time, “I was sort of in shock,” Winona freely admits. Besides, “I'd never seen anyone get a tattoo before so I was pretty squeamish, I guess.” Even as she repeatedly removed the bandage to stare at the engraving that Mike Messina had so perfectly etched, “I kept thinking it was going to wash off or something. I couldn't believe it was real. I mean it's a big thing because it's so permanent.”
Johnny himself had no doubts. `I love Winona. I'm going to love her forever. Putting her on my arm solidified it. The truth is very powerful, believe me this is not something I took lightly.' But according to Messina, “It was no big deal for him, mainly because he's had tattoos done before.” Even if the process did hurt. But that was all part of the allure. “Yeah!” Johnny yelped. “I liked the pain. It was electric, kind of nice.”
They broke up in 1993 because Winona’s father said “at 19, Winona is too young to marry.”

~ After they broke up – 1993 onwards. ~

“To have the tattoo removed, or erase it, is to try and say it never happened. If I alter it in some way, make it funny - put her next boyfriend's name on top of it, say - it would still be honest." – Johnny.

“She's a sweet kid, man. It's always a little weird, you're like ‘We used to do this and that, we used to have fun and hang out together.’ But at least we were able to feel that for each other. I feel real lucky that we got that." – Johnny.

“I think he's great and I have nothing but kind things to say about him.” – Winona.

“When we broke up, it was horrible. I mean it was so hard to get over and we had every thing out for the wedding. So that was difficult to tell people that the wedding was off, but what can I do now. Just move on. But I still think about all those good times we had." – Winona.

“When I hear our song, I get all these memories from when we went out together. Or any song that can on 89 to 93, it makes me think of her and that can suck but half of it makes me really happy.” – Johnny.

“Our song was playing when I first laid my eyes on her and that was ‘Take My Breath Away’ by Berlin and every time it comes on anywhere I think of her eyes." – Johnny.

“Johnny has always protested that he still loves Winona, while she has always held a special place for him in her heart because he was her first real love. So they might get back together but I don’t know.” – Josh Richman.

“Well, we went out to dinner, just as friends, a couple days ago and we talked about what's going on in life. It's really great that we can just sit and enjoy each other’s company. Right now it's hard for us, I just broke up with Matt and he just broke up with Kate. So we can both relate.” – Winona.

“We had a nice chat and just hung out after nothing big. I hope maybe in the future something could happen again. Maybe, we'll have to see. But I would like that. I'm going to Paris to shoot ‘The 9th Gate’ so maybe after I'll call her again and we can go out sometime.” – Johnny. (May 1998)

“He was so desperately in love with Winona, that when they broke up, he wouldn't admit it was over for the longest time.” - Tim Burton.

“The split in 1993 was during the filming of Ed Wood and there were days he would come crying, I felt so bad. I asked him why it happened but all he said was, 'It wasnt her fault, it was mine.' And when he met Kate in January of 94, it wasn't the same as Winona. I felt weird to be around him like he wasn't acting like Johnny anymore. It's almost like Winona took Johnny's soul, Johnny's love.”

“Winona kept him calm. Kept him cool. Not like out of control. I feel Johnny got arrested because Kate couldn't stop him from being wild and free. Winona could.”

“I believe he never really loved Kate. I mean, I love Johnny like a son, but he never was the same. I believe, also know, he belongs with Winona. So many people try to tell him (and Winona) they should just talk. They never say anything. I know Christina Ricci also told Johnny (during filming of Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas) to call Winona. Christina is very, very, very close to Winona. They’re like sisters.”

“I know them both so well. Even if he’s with Vanessa now and has 2 kids, I think he'll return to Winona someday. Not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon. Don't tell him I said that!” – Christina Ricci.

When Winona got arrested, Johnny Depp (her former boyfriend) got her a dozen pink roses to make her feel better and wrote a note himself stating, ‘Don't worry hon, it happens to the best of us. Good luck in court! I got faith in you!’

"When I met Johnny, I was pure virgin. He changed that. He was my first everything. My first real kiss. My first real boyfriend. My first fiancé. The first guy I had sex with. So he'll always be in my heart. Forever. Kind of funny that word." – Winona.
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I know Depp and Winona fans can't get over their break up that happened over 16 years ago. However, this whole thing about wanting her back is bogus. It's only in tabloids and it's funny how if he wanted winona back after a dinner date in may 98 why would he go and meet vanessa a month later and forget all about winona. If he truly wanted her back he never would have got with vanessa in the first place. He would have waited for winona. Come on guys figure this stuff out. Depp nor Ryder are the type to chase their past. The both moved on and now are just friends and rarely see each other. what's done is done guys. Oh, and that bogus statement from ricci is dumb. she would never say something like that....EVER look at all her other quotes. They are totally different than that statement. Plus, why would she say that in public at all? It's all bogus. people move on thats what it all boils down to. You live and love and if it ends you move on due to the fact that if you get back together it will end the same way all over again.
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Correction* it was Tim Burton who said “I know them both so well. Even if he’s with Vanessa now and has 2 kids, I think he'll return to Winona someday. Not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon. Don't tell him I said that!” :)
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I love this group fanpop, thank you very much for it.

desireis_famous as you know it was Tim Burton who said it, and where and when was that?

Another thing all these quotes about depp-ryder I have understood that they are taken from a website ..................... johnny fans would know someone tell me what is this page? ?

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@dingywinowolf Well, I've heard Johnny before saying that her father restricted her from seeing Johnny; period. There was many things that happened between them; but I'm not allowed to say. Johnny and Winona were FORCED. And Johnny wanted to honor her father's will. And he had to settle for second best; while Winona obviously didn't move on. I'm not saying he doesnt love Vanessa, but I'm sure there's still feelings for Winona, as to him.

@winonaforever I'm not sure, but I've read it many times that Tim Burton was the one who said that.
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I do not want to be rude, or say you are lying, but I really can not believe what he says.
I've never heard of Johnny and Winona were forced to leave their relationship, you say that was the father of Winona which opposed the romance between them?

I know how all that her parents did not want to marry so young, but from there to prohibit her father still see Johnny .......... ........ not .

In truth I know all or almost all the information about them, magazines, videos etc and I've never heard anything like it.
Although what you say you know a lot of them, more than anyone, knows things that nobody knows?

Be that as it is hard to believe, sorry if it offends you is not my intention but understand me.
If you can give me an explanation about this would appreciate it, thanks.

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Well, I've only recently been reading about Johnny Depp's (intense) relationship with Winona, and clearly it was a deeply emotional, passionate and loving one. I mean, look at the photos of them together - how he looks at her - the love he feels for her is there in his eyes, and written all over his face; it's obvious, and it's beautiful - he doesn't try to hide it. You don't ever get over a love like that.
And although he probably does love Vanessa, I think it's likely that he's just got comfortable with her. And of course, he adores his children (clever of Vanessa to get pregnant 3 months into their relationship) and that's why he will stay with her, despite what he may feel for Winona. At least, for the foreseeable future.

Johnny Depp wears his heart on his sleeve, I think, and when he falls in love he falls HARD and he gives himself totally. That makes him vulnerable, and he was terribly wounded when he and Winona parted. His heart was broken, and he changed somehow - he had lost something incredibly precious to him, and part of his heart had gone with it.

Maybe some day he will be with her again, but his undoubted love for his children will be the barrier between them. Only time will tell.
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To desireys_famous;

You speak as though you know Johnny Depp personally, and I think you may be a relative. What you say sounds like a reasonable and accurate assessment of the situation. I understand that you can't reveal any details, and thankyou for posting as you did - I think what most Johnny Depp fans want is just for him to be happy, and if Vanessa makes him happy, then we're happy too.
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bella8885 said:
i really hope they get back together someday ..
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famoraes said:
@desireys_famous what do you mean "they were FORCED"??? Why you are not "allowed" to say? I'm curious:|
Please tell us what happened!
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____Actually, now that I have done more research (to prove how stupid watching a dead relationship is) Ryder was with Matt from 1997-2000. That is an official fact. So, the whole shabang about getting back together is bogus. In the quote she says
“Well, we went out to dinner, just as friends, a couple days ago and we talked about what's going on in life. It's really great that we can just sit and enjoy each other’s company. Right now it's hard for us, I just broke up with Matt and he just broke up with Kate. So we can both relate.” – Winona. she was not broken up with Matt yet.
____Also, Depp does say how he feels about his lovers but not in such an open way. I can see him saying it was nice to catch up but he would never give the public that kind of info. Look at all his interviews from Ryder to Paradis. He always says "I just knew" and as far as the loving pictures, obviously you haven't seen the lover photos of him and Moss. They far outweigh the "glow" and "love" that of ryder's photos. I think he loved all women he has been with but he isn't the type to chase the past esspecially 18 years into the past. Depp and his ex's are all totally different people now.
_____BTW- Where is this interview coming from? no sources no nothin. Every search leads me to a fan site, tabloid, or other wraggs... Can anyone find the origional? I can't and I have looked.
____P.S. It was Ricci that said the paradis quote.
____“I know them both so well. Even if he’s with Vanessa now and has 2 kids, I think he'll return to Winona someday. Not today, maybe not tomorrow, but soon. Don't tell him I said that!” – Christina Ricci. said in 2001 only on Fanpop
____ 1** last thing, when they brokeup it was 1993 winona was born is 71 making her 22 and well able to do as she wanted with her life no matter her father's say. they were together 89-93 making winona 17or 18(due to when they met) through 22 in other words say what she will, she could legally make the decision on her own but she didn't. they brokeup on their own for their own reasons and it is their reason to know. It is over.
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I agree @ Dingywinowolf
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xlVickky said:
@wehaveanaccord you say Johnny won't leave Vanessa and his kids,but look: a few months ago they divorced.I read that Johnny was ,,bored to tears of Vanessa'',i don't know if it's true,i just read the article.One thing i know:Johnny will return to Winona.The first love doesn't dissapear and a love like they had it's rare. Greetings!
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