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Teen Wolf Do you consider Teen Wolf Sexist towards either gender in any way?

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No!
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Yes, it&# 39; s sexist towards women
Yes, it's sexist towards women
   18%
Yes, it&# 39; s sexist towards men
Yes, it's sexist towards men
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 Articuno224 posted over a year ago
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Articuno224 picked No!:
IMO, No I absolutely do not. It actually seems to me like every Movie and TV Show that I have ever seen is not sexist in any way, they all deal with a lot of problems on both sides, there are always strong characters from both genders and there are always weak (I don't really like to use that word, so I'll say more vulnerable instead) characters on both sides.
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Yes, it&# 39; s sexist towards women
sarabeara picked Yes, it's sexist towards women:
I'm pretty sure not even a single episode of this damn show would pass the Bechdel test. Not to mention how women were primarily used as plot devices to further the men's character development.
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Yes, it&# 39; s sexist towards women
NCISLuverjk93 picked Yes, it's sexist towards women:
^^

Also, you can't actually be sexist towards men..
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Articuno224 picked No!:
Well, by these comments I will almost have to assume that you are both extreme Feminists, because the thing is; Using the of excuse "women were primarily used as plot devices to further the men's character" Guess what, this also happened the other way around AND for Male characters being used as plot devices for the benefit of other male characters, look at both sides before you judge.

Also "You can't actually be sexist against men" That's a lot of crap right there, that's what we call double standards, what Sexism means: "discrimination or devaluation based on a person's sex or gender" hate towards a gender as a whole: Female: Misogyny, Male: Misandry. Seriously do not tell me that abuse, special treatment, harassment and sexism can only happen to one side, there is no logic in that, abuse or discrimination because of gender = Sexism. You believe that women can treat men however they want and that can't be Sexist? I'm sorry but it doesn't make any sense, it says Sexism for a reason and not Femsismn or in this case just replace the word Sexism with Misogyny.

And to be honest I did not expect this subject to get this serious, I almost wish I did not bring it up at all.

And on another note: If the show was actually discriminating and sexist towards women, why in the hell do we have powerful represented characters like; Malia, Kira, Lydia, Allison, Melissa, even less important ones like; Talia, Tracy, Jennifer, Kali and even the stupid Dessert Wolf.

Shows and movies nowadays actually does A LOT to focus on strong represented female characters, they are literally everywhere, and if you would pay attention you would even realize that there are actually often as many or more empowered physically strong badass kind of female characters. There is also a reason the term "Girl Power" have existed for a long time now, and it being used all the time to empower women and girls. This is pretty opposite than being sexist towards women. (I'm not saying it's sexist against men, when I said opposite I meant that it's far from being sexists)
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Yes, it&# 39; s sexist towards women
sarabeara picked Yes, it's sexist towards women:
Well, actually...
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RobbStark234 picked No!:
What? How could you even think that Teen Wolf is sexist? Even if the show only had male characters or only had female then that would NOT even be sexist, it would just be a different way to tell a story, Guy trips is a really common thing, it's usually the sons and the dad taking a trip into the wild to have some kind of 'survival' trip, it's a way of them feeling the need to be more masculine and generally expressing their differences from the daughters and the mother/wife, because no matter how much you love the opposite gender, you'll sometimes feel trapped in their interests', we are different as a gender. Just like girls often feel they need to have a break from their boyfriend and hang out with all their girl-friends. Exploring a story about a guy trip or brotherhood, or a girl-party is not sexist in any way, like I said it would simply be telling a story of that.

To say you can't be sexist against men is ridiculous! If you discriminate, mistreat or judge someone only based on their gender, then you're being sexist, plain and simple.

Articuno: Well explained! This show has so many ways of making characters from both genders be really strong. Most of the most powerful characters are actually female, yeah Void Stiles and the Werewolves have power too, but there are far more female characters with really powerful abilities, Jennifer being a darach, who can actually beat/kill most of the characters, and even more at once. Kira; A Kitsune, who can survive electricity, can surround herself in flames. Tracy: the bitch is has the power to paralize anyone and turn into half Kanima, and she's really confident and a strong individual. All the most characters with the really powerful abilities are female (Except Void Stiles, Deucalion and the new Derek) The werewolves have power, but it's to a much lower level than all the female characters with these extreme powers.

And the show is also not sexist against men/boys because there are more male characters as a whole and the main character is male, and they are not being portrayed in a discriminating way at all either.

Neither gender is being portrayed in a discriminating way.
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Yes, it&# 39; s sexist towards women
NCISLuverjk93 picked Yes, it's sexist towards women:
Sexism is institutionalized. Having someone be biased towards you in an isolated context, for instance, a woman excluding a man from something based on his gender, is simply mean or discriminatory, because it's an individual act, rather than one that's historically ingrained in the way society operates to the detriment of men. It's the exact same "nope, not even close to the same thing" comparison that happens when white people assert that they've been victims of racism: That is literally not possible, because you are in the privileged majority. If you think that isolated instances of feeling slighted or discriminated against amount to having the entire balance of favor in society stacked against you, then you're self-involved, ignorant, or at best, misguided about what words like "sexism" and "racism" actually mean.

And, making a female character have powers or be "badass" doesn't mean JD isn't sexist! Like sarabeara said, they're mostly just used as plot devices to further a male characters development.
Arden/Kira was thrown away when her story wasn't anywhere near being done, and Arden didn't want to leave. When Colton decided to leave the show, and said there was no chance of him returning, JD decided to just write Jackson off by having him move away. Meanwhile when Crystal wanted to leave, and said she'd probably definitely want to return at some point, JD decided to kill off Allison, therefore making it so it was impossible to return (though she did for Marie-Jeanne, but that's besides the point.) Kira was thrown in basically as an Allison/Scott-love-interest replacement. Erica, killed off. Cora came in to further Derek's development and was supposed to be a love interest for Stiles but that didn't work out so they just had her "leave". The female villains (Kali, Jennifer, Kate, Corinne) were killed off, while the white male villains (Gerard, Peter, Deucalion, the Twins, Theo), survive and often receive redemption arcs.
Talia, dead. Tracy, dead. Corinne, dead. Jennifer, dead. Laura, dead. "Strong female characters" only count so much when they're all deceased.

Even the cast acknowledges that the show/JD is sexist, and to refuse to admit it is ignorant.

Call me a feminist all you want, I take that as a compliment, because, yes, I am. And it's just funny how both of you are males, so..... yeah.
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Articuno224 picked No!:
^You do realize that we're not talking about history right? We're talking about how the show handles their characters, and like RobbStark234 said basically every important Female character that exists in this show is really strong and independent, there are no demzel in distress characters in this show, There are even many causes where the Female character fight better, can handle more or outpower the male, this happened many times with Scott - Kira, Scott - Allison. Stiles - Malia. Also: Sexism has nothing to do with who is in the minority, not to mention that in my part of the world women and girls have at least as many rights and power as men do, and it's only going uphill for women. I have actually been interested in this whole subject for some time now, and research actually shows that men are the victims in many things. Women get special treatment in so many ways in my part of the world, and ever since this was a serious problem for women and girls, it has only been going uphill and it still continues to do so, Shows and movies do EVERYTHING they can not to discriminate women, so we have more and more really strong and kickass Female characters that women and girls can admire and be inspired by, going in this direction is the opposite of being sexist, but back to the show:

You do have a point about Kira/Arden being trown out, that was fucking unacceptable! As for Allison/Crystal I heard she asked to be killed off because she was tired of acting as a teenager, when she herself were in her 30's. Was was your point with Jackson? You mean that there would be a possibility for him? I agree his story about moving to New York was stupid, he should have died when he pretty much was. But if he doesn't want to return ever, it makes no difference. Oh jesh, Kira was MUCH more than a replacement for Allison and a love interest for Scott, she was her own character with unique abilities and personality, she was developed as a CHARACTER for many Seasons, not 'just' to benefit Scott... Especially because Scott having a romance doesn't even do anything for his character. Boyd too (Ignore the other side again) Cora left and Isaac left (But ignore that fact again) You have a point with the male villains, except for Aiden dying, I was always mad about Deucalion being spared while Jennifer was killed when she was FAR more awesome and interesting, not to mention that she was actually the least evil of the two, she wanted revenge for the cruel things they did to her when she hadn't even done anything to them.

I disagree that characters only count if they're alive, they were all portrayed brilliantly, but I do agree that it was weird how so many of the female villains needed to be killed.

When did either of us say that we were a guy? But yes I am, RobbStark234 is not.
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