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Why I wasn’t satisfied with Leyton’s end-game
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Taking out the emotional intensity of the moments Leyton provided in s6, with Peyton’s pregnancy showing critical complications and Lucas questioning himself as a future father, their storyline which would eventually lead to an end-game seems: 1) Melodramatic Burton and Murray’s performance in episode 17 was heartbreaking; their acting was synchronized and convincing. I was very moved with the way their worst fears were finally discussed between them and considering this is LP, with their passive-aggressive ‘will they, won’t they, why of course they would’ bullshit and quixotic notions, I was surprised. I remember the first episode of season 6, how completely scripted their ‘reunion’ was; from the cuddling in the airplane, the hotel room symbolic sex to the rushed, but failed, matrimony. Leyton continued to disappoint me in that episode. They never talked about important issues like the effect of Lindsay leaving Lucas in the altar and what Lucas really meant when he said he hated Peyton and wished she never came back because she ruined his life. Somehow these issues don’t matter because they’re together now. This is TV, sure, but such lack of realism is a great ordeal of pain in the ass, if you ask me. So jumping to episode 17, I was surprised at how they’re finally honest with each other. I gave them a thumbs-up for the effort because they’re building something real now and I respect that. I was also impressed when they tackled about the Julian issue but remembering how distasteful and unsatisfactory the very foundation of their relationship was from earlier seasons, I would not—will never—be persuaded to support LP TLA. As much as episode 17 was heartbreaking, terribly so, Lucas and Peyton as the couple Leyton still remains an eyesore. They claimed to have survived car crashes and bullet wounds and psychos—all typical exaggerations for melodramatic effect. A devotee to boy-saves-girl mantra would have been teary-eyed and swept over but I am not. These events are not the full measure of obstacles two people in love overcome. Sure, overcoming the things cited is oh-so-romantic, but the real tests of LP’s relationship should have been the cheating and the betrayal they have been susceptible with twice, the three-year resentment that produced guilt and rage between them because of one misunderstanding, and the ridiculous assumptions and expectations they have for their ‘epic love’, as well as other people’s, for that matter (Hello, An unkindness of Ravens and its evil spawn The Comet). I applaud episode 17 for Chilarie’s performance. Still, the fact that the individual similarities of Lucas and Peyton are giving them the sameness in flavor, their combined appeal as a couple was then reduced to mush. They’re still too alike for my taste, and it’s one of the primary reasons I threw up upon sampling their Quixote-Dulcinea -cookie-dough. 2) Contrived Schwann went a bit too far when he was writing Leyton in s6. Honestly? You wanna know why their storyline was executed so cheaply that all I could do is shake my head in amusement and outrage? First off: The Get-Married Vegas Style. Played-out in so many movies, TV shows and books; including the part where they back out and realize they want something less tawdry. And then, while they’re still working out their issues (or at least appear to be doing so), they decided to move in together, with a snap of a finger, faster than you can say holy-fucking-shit. Perhaps it’s me being nitpicky but I actually would have preferred if they tried dating again, court each other, get to know the person they’ve disappointed along the way three years ago. You know? It would have been exciting and refreshing to see LP become a real couple than a concept but then again, this only proves that I will never, ever support their TLA. Now that I think about it, when did Lucas and Peyton ever just dated? Like, no bullshit drama and sneaking around, and hurting the best friend, with loose ends that were discarded instead of tied neatly? They only hook up, if you may, in moments of desperation and river of tears and regrets. Seriously? Their end-game does not make up for this fact. Then we get the Julian issue. And after that theatrical alternate-reality episode, Peyton is with child; at first we thought she might have cancer like her bio-mom Elle (I know some claimed that they wished she should have had cancer than Lucas’ baby and I hated that possibility but I would sometimes ponder about it too). Bad news struck and Peyton’s pregnancy has a glitch. And drama ensues. I like the situation because it provides their individual characters to express themselves in ways I haven’t seen them before (hence episode 17). Let’s skip ahead: we had the wedding. Then Peyton’s bloody wedding dress. Baby Sawyer is introduced. They live happily ever after, the three of them. It screams out predictable to me all the way. I tried my best to view it in a positive light because I love that my Peyton Sawyer is happy and content, but I can’t shake the feeling, this voice in my head that asks that’s it? All that waiting since season 1 and getting back in season 4 and breaking up in season 5—leads to that in season 6? Vegas, living together, arrival of an ex-boyfriend, bun-in-the oven, long-overdue wedding, the surgery where everything hangs in a balance, a family riding off to whatever future fate holds for them? That was it? Is Schwann so eager to end the LP TLA and thought he wrote it in a way that ended with a bang, just like what he originally envisioned as cosmic order? Well, I’ll be damned! It feels like watching one of those Mexican soap operas where the stereotype ending for the fated lovers is a marriage and a kid; and as they drove off to a bright morning sun, the viewers are left to imagine the happiness their lives will be enriched with. Just that. Bleh. Well, at least we have Naley who proved a true love story never ends with just a marriage. Always something has to follow. Too bad LP went bye-bye before Schwann could explore that. ************** O, great LP—with all the fuss coming from your devoted fanbase, I was actually hoping you could do better, that the end-game that seals your authenticity as a couple would be more than just a patched-up tapestry from every pay-off ever conjured by man. At first I thought the only reason that I never approved of Leyton was because of their dishonesty (which is anything but cryptic and controversial, mind you) and that undeserving people have to pay the price of pain just so they could get together. Now I have one more thing to add to the list: their end-game is unimaginative, too common. I’ve seen better couples who had pulled it off but LP just flopped. And I was disappointed that Murray and Burton had to leave because the consequence of their departures is this laughing-stock Schwann calls a happily-ever-after. Great ending because they’re together, Peyton says? I weep. On the bright side, Mark Schwann ended LP, tucked his darling (and the muse that inspired it) to eternal rest. And as a non-supporter, even if Peyton Sawyer (Scott)’s character abrupt ending saddens me, I can now stop holding my breath and be thankful that this massacre of good sense is now somewhere away in fictional world where it will never haunt my television. Ever. Again. *********** I don’t encourage debates with LP fans from now on, since I will always remain unconvinced that their LP TLA is worth supporting. This opinion is not meant to offend. I’m just saying it. And that’s that. I’m just glad season 7 has new characters and a change of pace. No more One-Leyton-Hill.
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Now that I think about it, when did Lucas and Peyton ever just dated? Like, no bullshit drama and sneaking around, and hurting the best friend, with loose ends that were discarded instead of tied neatly? You seriously got me thinking, and they have never just dated. WOAH. That is another point on my list to why LP isnt TLA.
I can now stop holding my breath and be thankful that this massacre of good sense is now somewhere away in fictional world where it will never haunt my television. Ever. Again. LOL so true, Even thought i havnt watched s7, if i ever deicde to i know that i, don't have to worry about LP popping up!!
You're articles are fantastic!! You are so smart and the way you set everything out is very good.
You use big words and you be rude without saying rude things, you say smart words that don't seem rude, [if that makes sense :/]
But this is saved to my favourites, because this is just a really really really good article!!
LOVED it!!
For example, in HIMYM, I support the possibility of Barney/Robin because they come off as natural and interesting, but I also respect the history of Ted/Robin because, even if they really couldn't work out because they have different ideals when it comes to relationships, they were honest with each other; honest enough to admit that they were better off friends and they still have an amazing connection even if it's only platonic.
About this:
"You seriously got me thinking, and they have never just dated. WOAH. That is another point on my list to why LP isnt TLA. "
Indeed. I mean, nothing says TLA than cookie-dough fights, confetti rain and motel sex, or as I'd like to call it, A Killing Spree of Logic in Season 4. And some snob LP supporters I've met three months ago even consider that their couple don't need to date because, duh, that's what meant-to-be is supposed to look like. They must have been deeply troubled. They need to go out and experience what's the difference between a real couple and an overblown concept. Any relationship-help book will tell us that the hype over finding your soulmate who is this perfect concept will only lead to disastrous results. Case in point: Season 5 LP.
Gawd, Schwann's LP, like, wrote the book on Worst Scenarios in Romantic Relationships. I'd buy me a copy of it just to LOL, ya know? XD
You already know i`m a huge fan of your writing style. You get your points across easily let alone the fact that i`m always impressed by your use of words/language. And that`s gonna be a random question...but are you a native speaker?
Anyways....back to the article. I adored this particular bit: "All that waiting since season 1 and getting back in season 4 and breaking up in season 5—leads to that in season 6? Vegas, living together, arrival of an ex-boyfriend, bun-in-the oven, long-overdue wedding, the surgery where everything hangs in a balance, a family riding off to whatever future fate holds for them? That was it?
Exactly my thoughts. Just how fucking predictable could their story be?
and as a fellow huge peyton fan who can't stand leyton i know exactly how you feel about season 7 and their departure. and the haunting memory of jp jut makes me resent lp being endgame even more, p sawyer deserves so much better than what she got. though yeah it was a great performance by her in s6 with the baby storyline, i just pretended it had nothing to do with lucas. if only. or maybe they would wake up realise what they had was BS and become friends and go search for their real soulmates.
fave part, the contrived section and all the season 6 dissing, mark could have done so much better and you highlighted exactly where he f'd up with lp.
Just how fucking predictable could their story be?
They were a good concept in season 1. But their realism after that began to slip so we get a very bad pay-off in the end. I have heard from LPers who are quite unsatisfied themselves too. When something lives at the high pedestal, as soon as it comes down crashing, people are gonna start seeing its flaws and they won't be happy about it. Case in point, Season 6 LP.
Anyway, I agree with everything! I always thought I'd be so fuckin envious of LP because they're endgame, they are together and they're having a baby and BL isn't. But when I saw how Mark wrote their anticipated reunion, I'm quite glad it wasn't BL. Ofc I'd be happy if it were BL, hello, it's BL who am I to say no! But their reunion was horrible, they never talked about their issues instead they jumped on their beds like bestfriends do. When the spoilers came out about LP having a wedding, it literally drove me nuts. I seriously don't know what's going through Mark's mind. I remember watching OTH on my iPod, reminiscing the good ol' days, imagining it's BL who are getting married. I honestly thought I'm gonna cry watching LP get married because it's everything I wanted for BL, and now LP has it. It breaks my heart. But when I finally saw it, nothing. It wasn't magical or anything. 6 seasons for a shit piece of a wedding. Definitely not something to envy for. Peyton may be Peyton Scott, but Lucas is Lucas Davis-Scott. LMFAO!
Kababayan!!!
NOW THE STORY'S PLAYED OUT LIKE THIS.
JUST LIKE A PAPERBACK NOVEL.
LET'S REWRITE AN ENDING THAT FITS
INSTEAD OF A HOLLYWOOD HORROR
I'm editing your "My Rebuttal" article about that LPer who posted something in What's Up Forum (?) (It sort of became a habit of mine, collecting good BL and anti-LP articles. I have brattynemz' and RealLuvAlwaysBL's articles too), and realized that everyone just keeps patronizing LP too damn much. It's not healthy or reasonable. Admittedly, I admire abs07, and still do (though I can never agree with her and I mostly use her catchphrases whenever I write a counter-article, LOL), but most LP fans who troll around the interwebz are delusional and cannot come up with better points for argument.
I really wish we could all rewrite 4, 5, 6. I really wish Leyton never have to be so contrived and tawdry. They could have been wonderful, with proper writing and reasonable build-up. But whatever Schwann intended for them has been lost in translation. I could never comprehend how badly they were rendered. I could only find solace in Brucas and Jeyton (because we could always enjoy the music, and believe in the possibility even when everything else is telling us not to).
I love this tidbit:
..they never talked about their issues; instead they jumped on their beds like bestfriends do.
I agree. It was so corny I could die!~ And the LP wedding wasn't magical AT ALL. It was like a typical soap opera ending (and we Filipinos know what typical soap opera ending means, right?) Nauwi lagi sa kasal, ganun siya ka-stereotype. XD
Ah? message? I don't recall that.
one of teh biggets things i cant stand about leyton, the fakeness def, i just can't buy this couple. i don't see their love on screen,or more correctly i never see them falling in love. and i dont buy marl being such a big leytoner, surely he wouldnt have rushed them and fucked them up like he did if he was, surely he wouldnt have witten jeyton and brucas so damn beautifully if he was routing for another couple.
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