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Brucas and Leyton: The comparison to Dawson's Creek Jacey and Doey

Opinion by melanieacbaer posted 1 year ago
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Ok, I don't know who else watches/watched Dawson's Creek but I find HUGE similarities to the Joey and Pacey's relationship(Jacey, JP) to Brucas (BL); and Joey and Dawson's realtionship (Doey, JD) to Leyton(LP).
Ok...
Doey and Leyton are 'platonic soulmates'. i.e. they share similar interests JD film, analyzing, academic fulfillment; LP music, abandonment, the arts (writing and drawing).
LP and JD seem to be unable to function normally with or without the other. Both share traumatic experiences and are there for each other which undoubtedly gives them a close emotional bond.

However, when they are together romantically, they are both searching for something else (I think passion, chemistry, and the feeling of being whole) They do not COMPLETE each other. They never fully trust one another and are constantly looking for the drama...never a healthy sign in a relationship. It seems that rght after they have sex/intense kissing (LP after series 1, JD series 6) that the chemistry goes and there is no buildup nor sparks anymore. This is part of growing up and maturing your relationship as friends. What you think are sparks are just really the possibilty of 'what if'

Ok, them not in a relationship. They both seem to think just because they are a male and female friendship who understand each other both emotionally and how the other thinks does not mean they are meant to be. They seem to think they 'should' be together. Another bad sign. Both cling desparelty to this idea of 'soulmate.' I wouldn't know even to begin in defining a soulmate but I am pretty sure that it doesn't have to be your gf/bf/husband/wife (as seen in Dawson's Creek where Jack and Jen are soulmates but Jack is gay so they are not romantically involved and Lucas/Haley in OTH)
Another annoying trait of LP and JD is that when the other is in a relationship, the other can not bear it. They are selfish and it is only then that they seem to discover these 'feelings.' These are NOT romantic feelings, these I would argue are feelings of FEAR - losing the other, losing themselves, as both Lucas, Peyton, but especially Dawson and Joey seem to define themselves by each other. Agian, GROW UP. Just because of high school, childhood, saving one another (esp OTH) does not mean they are True Love Always (to steal OTH). While this unquestionably intrinsically binds them, we can see this bind is stifling and suffocating wen they are actually in a relationship and it holds them back both as individuals and as a couple.

Ok now on to Brucas and Jacey.
These are TRUE LOVE. They both have CHEMISTRY and CONNECTION. Sparks fly. It is so obvious to any viewer and undeniable even to hard core Leyton and Doey fans.
They are both sexually attracted to one another- a key part to any adult realtionship, and Lucas lost his virginity to Brooke and Joey lost hers to Pacey. This is a bond that stays with you for LIFE. Crushes come and go, but you never forget who the 'first' is.
They fight for one another (OTH-beach scene, DC-the wall =just 2 key examples but there are MANY more) They fight because there is something worth fighting for. They do not run from their problems at the first sign of trouble as LP and JD do (LP-proposal, Peyton runs and JD-Natasha, Joey runs), BL and JP FIGHT and they fight tooth and nail for each other not just for their relationship but for the other as an individual. Which brings me on to my next point, when they are in a relationship they GROW and MATURE as individuals and as a couple. You see the characters change and in a GOOD way. The transformations are remarkable.
Thirdly, when BL and JP are in a relationship they are HAPPY. Not so much angst, anxiety, caution, and doubt; more content, satisfied, and ALIVE.
Their love is so real, that they sometimes run from it to Peyton and Dawson mostly, but also to others. Yet, they are still friends because they truly believe in each other. This is why they COMPLETE each other. Their relationship isn't out of a sense of oligation nor a crippling co-dependent bind, but one of true love. Their hearts are intertwined and you see them at their saddest when they are 'losing' the other one (OTH rain scene, DC the prom)

So, there you have it. I hope I haven't missed anything out. If you feel you need more evidence, please coment and I will do my best to respond. This is my first article, so please don't be too rough to me but I just felt that the comparisons were so startling I had to say something.

LOVE ALWAYS - Brucas and Jacey
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Allixox said:
=D love it, and totally agree.
posted 1 year ago.
 
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Thankyou for your comment!
posted 1 year ago.
 
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Cool. I was so young when they aired Dawson's Creek here so I can barely remember. :p
posted 1 year ago.
 
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I totally agree with you
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The comparison for me in Doey/Leyton is mainly based on 2 things:
1. I always thought that Joey was to Dawson as Peyton was to Lucas, in terms of being his ideal woman, his soulmate, etc. The two couples had very different storylines and timelines so I think that's difficult to argue either way, but the premise and the undertones set up by both Lucas and Dawson overshadowed the actual relationships of Doey/Leyton. IMO you never want the idea of love to be greater than what is portrayed on screen...and I never engaged in either Doey/Leyton, I never FELT their romantic connection. Doey's platonic soulmates is more concrete, although I'd argue that Lucas did truly come to terms with his desires for Peyton as a mere fantasy or dream girl in S2, and that's why he pursued Brooke. It was Brooke whom he couldn't imagine his life with out. But later seasons confuse this theory, and I think Mickei's Fanfiction--First Draft sums up my views on the clarity moment of the state championship, and mainly Lucas's denial of love prior to Peyton Sawyer.
2. Their on screen presence...IMO both seemed very forced, it didn't come natural beyond S1 for me with Leyton (but I've had that discussion and agreed that the in part poor writing/Chad, played a role in S4 chemistry), but the tone of Leyton S4, now S6 is very hard to explain...to me it comes off as a mix of confusion, comfortableness, cheese, and bliss. The bliss part though seems sketchy especially on a teen drama, and once again, not real enough for me. My distaste for Doey is majorly due my distaste for Dawson, I thought he was not only obnoxious, but way too mature for his age, he was like watching a 49 yr old in a 16 year old body, and his hair oh gosh that hair killed me. (As did Chads in season 4 by the way) Bottomline: TO ME... NEITHER DOEY OR LEYTON HAD/HAS A LICK OF THE ON SCREEN CHEMISTRY THAT JACEY/BRUCAS DID/DO.

The Jacey/Brucas comparison is by far more substantiated by me...
1. They initially were brought together by a mutual friend, ie Dawson/Peyton...both romantic connections grew out of that, and for both it seemed to me that they found something in the other Lucas in Brooke, Joey in Pacey, that they didn't find in either Peyton or Dawson. Whatever it was, it was what (IMO) brought them together even when under most circumstances they wouldn't have. It leads to...
2. Vulnerability. I felt that Jacey/Brucas found a vulnerability in each other that allowed for two things to happen. One, they were drawn to each other, because that vulnerability was only shared between each other, an unspoken connection, and two it gave way for them to grow together as individuals. Even though Jacey ultimately withstood their relationship in the end, and Brucas did not I think Brooke and Lucas are better people today because of the love and that growth that they inspired in each other.
3. Acceptance. I always felt that Dawson had these high standards/expectations that he set for Doey, his version of what could or would inevitably be(the whole Soulmates deal), and that never happened. Dawson wanted Joey, the girlfriend he built up all those years, not Joey the beautiful and amazing woman that Pacey loved under NO pretenses. I sorta saw that in Lucas idealizing Peyton before meeting her and subsequently, getting to know Brooke. Jacey accepted each other immeadiatly for their best and her worst qualities, as did Brucas. I think it was that acceptance that connected them, and ultimately allowed for them to take a 2nd chance and build on rough starts.
4. Virginity/First Love- Well I think Brooke was Lucas's first time and L was B's first Love, and Pacey was Joeys(very controversial at the time)lol.vice versa. Just a similarity.
5. The Spark-And this is again my feeling on the 4 couples, but I felt that same opposites attract completeness in Jacey as I did in Brucas.

As you can see, I see more connections between Jacey/Brucas, but I know their stories more. I don't think that there is a huge connection between the two, but depending upon which side of the fence you stand on their are some unique commonalities between them I don't think it will have any impact on how OTH series and those couples end though.

posted 1 year ago.
 
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WOOW!
Simply awesome! Totally loved it<33!
posted 1 year ago.
 
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great article
posted 1 year ago.
 
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Hehehehe I noticed that too along time ago..I LOVE DC I have all six seasons and yeah there are some HUGE similarities!!
posted 1 year ago.
 
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eka-chan said:
Another annoying trait of LP and JD is that when the other is in a relationship, the other can not bear it. They are selfish and it is only then that they seem to discover these 'feelings.' These are NOT romantic feelings, these I would argue are feelings of FEAR - losing the other, losing themselves, as both Lucas, Peyton, but especially Dawson and Joey seem to define themselves by each other. Again, GROW UP. Just because of high school, childhood, saving one another (esp OTH) does not mean they are True Love Always (to steal OTH). While this unquestionably intrinsically binds them, we can see this bind is stifling and suffocating wen they are actually in a relationship and it holds them back both as individuals and as a couple.

Well said. I don't know Dawson's Creek because I never cared to watch it. But these are good comparisons. There's no other way to say this but I come for Leyton's blood. The pairing is punishable under death for reuniting. Damn piss-ass TLA, cookie-dough-scented delusion of hornies and misfits. BARF! I'm losing lots of decency just bashing them like this. Leyton has to be eradicated. And because this seems to be not happening yet, I'm shunning them away from my consciousness for now and focus on better things in OTH.
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MissDoris said:
Interesting view. Gave you props.
posted 1 year ago.
 
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sooooooooooo agreee

brucas rocks!!!!
posted 11 days ago.
 
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