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1000 reasons why harry potter is better than twilight

lauracullen66 posted on Aug 27, 2009 at 01:29PM
just start at one and see if you can get 1000
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angelic
no way twilight rocks
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i agree
i have a 1000 reason why twilight is better as well
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1. It has a more realistic ending.
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2. It has a PLOT!
3. It has Subplots
4.It has several characters with depth.
5. JK is not afraid to sacrifice the good guys
6. The characters aren't one dementional
7. JK researches her material, has good use of Latin and history within her books. Spells are named after Latin words and do what the Latin words do. Names of soem characters give hints as to what that character is such as Sirius which means Dog Star for more Albus which means White (pure wizard) http://www.angelfire.com/mi3/cookarama//na­mem­ean­.ht­ml
8. You can relate Harry Potter to WWII because of similarities you could learn some history from the books.
9. reason 8 being said some characters are loosly based off real life people Dumbledoor=Winston Churchill and VOldemort=Hitler Death eaters=Nazi's
10. Harry Potter teaches a good deal about prejudice and slavery with the use of different imaginative creatures (Which also required research to create)
11. JK wrote a whole imaginative world that goes further then her 7 books. She thought about more then writing a story but created a whole world with information that never actually made it into the books. Similar to JRR Tolkien (author who wrote Lord of the Rings, if you don't bother to read classics.)
12. Twilight WILL fad out it is a fad and many fans are on it because of the Bandwagon effect and because Robert Patterson is good looking But Harry Potter will be around forever
13. The writing is just better.
14. Twilight is too predictable and thrown clumsily together. Harry potter is not predictable and JK Rowling ties all knots and answers all questions.
15. Harry Potter teaches good values and relationships. There are no controlling abusive relationships and the hero can go one without their partner.
16. The female characters are strong and intelligent. Hermione doesn't NEED a boyfriend to be a strong good role model for girls everywhere
17. Harry Potter can be read by any age group. Twilight is geared more towards angst 15 year olds.
18. The characters in Harry Potter GROW, they grow with you as you read. The first books start out fairly tame but mature as you mature. I had the pleasure of growing with Harry I was 11 when it was released 19 or 20 when it was finished.

This is just to name a few I really could go on forever. Harry Potter does have some flaws such as the horrible Epilogue but it is all around a good book that is well written.

Twilight was boring. It wasn't interesting, poorly written, bad values and lacked plot. Any conflict added in twilight was hasty thrown in without any purpose other than to have it in there, not to mention is wasn't even solved right away. It was solved as a side note two chapters later. I gave my copy away after reading it once. I was ashamed to have it on my book shelf. As for the movie I wanted to rip my eyes out with a hot iron.
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Mrs-Grint said:
19. A story about a teenage wizard facing off against a dark lord beats one about a sparkling, lovesick vampire anyday.
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Mrs-Grint said:
20. Even Rob Pattison says he hates Edward Cullen and played him like a manic-depressive.
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21. The main characters in Harry Potter have flaws.
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22. The characters are not entirely evil or entirely good

23. There are clues put in the first books that will eventually have a great significance later on. (ex: in SS, harry talked to a snake at the zoo. we always thought it was just part of being a wizard, but it reveals itself to be parseltongue which was very useful for harry later on)
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PMT said:
24. The villains are villains for a reason. They're not just bad without explanation. J K Rowling explained Voldemort and other Deat Eaters and showed why they went bad.
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25. These books initiate young people to read. I've heard of many people who didn't like reading before, but thanks to hp, they now read a lot.
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nati30 said:
25 is true, i didn't like reading a lot before, but thanks to hp, i now do try to look for good books a lot more and, of course, my standards are much higher. WITH THAT BEING SAID:

26. All the details that J.K. ROWLING bothered to throw in even though a lot of people probably wouldn't notice, like the fact that the combination used to get into the minsitry of magic (62442) can spell out magic on a phone.
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nati30 said:
27. The characters are lovable not because they are hot, or cool, but because of their personalities.
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PMT said:
28. JKR has made the plot and characters so deep that when something significant happens, emotions can really be felt. Like Dobby's or Fred's death or when Harry was walking to the forest, understanding that he must die.
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PMT said:
29. It's not just one genre, like Twilight. It has humour, adventure, action, romance, fantasy, there's even an adolescent or coming-of-age element. The multiple genres add to the story significantly by being so diverse. With Twilight, I never got that feeling when reading it.
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Hedwig11 said:
30. JKR's Protagonist is not so overtly simple that a monkey could relate to him and put themselves in their position. Meyer's protagonist is, which is probably why so many of her, often illiterate sounding (see some of their comments on other fan pages) fans, fall in love with the character. They are easily able to relate that character to themselves and picture what their life would be like if they had a hot guy like Edward "in love" with them

31. Stephan King (or any other distinguished author for that matter) has yet to tell JK Rowling that she "can't write"

32. JKR doesn't repeat herself 500 times, using the same comparison EVERY SINGLE TIME. We get it Edward is hard and cold like granite; you don't need to use that analogy every time his name is mentioned.

33. you can see the characters in HP fall in love and watch as their feelings for each other grow. In Twilight Bella falls "unconditionally and irrevocably in love" with Edward in just a few weeks, without knowing anything at all about him, other than he's a hot vampire (thats like granite of course *rolls eyes*) if 2 people really were to fell "in love" that fast they would probably fall out of love even faster.

34. Harry Potter is a plot based story (plot based stories are USUALLY not thought highly of in the literary world) that is able to use the events in its plot to prove a point about the real world (for those who have issues understanding metaphors and symbolism, her point is that racism= bad) the closest the twilight series comes to social commentary like this is that it supports abstinence and is against abortion, even when it will help save the life of the woman that is pregnant. Both of which are mentioned, sort of as an after thought, throughout the series. Anyway, is this really a good message? studies show that sex ed is more effective at preventing teen pregnancy and STDS if it stresses both abstinence and protection. And to prevent women from getting abortions when having the baby would kill them, is basically trading one human being's life, for a clump of cells that, most likely, if the complications are so vast that the mother will probably die in birth, would probably be stillborn or have serious medical issues.

35. Characters in HP don't suddenly change species in order to hastily tie up loose ends that the author was to lazy to pull together satisfactorily. i.e. "oh its ok hes not REALLY a warewolf, hes a shape-shifter! did i mention that i love Edward and that he's hard and cold like granite?"

36. HP does not cause its fans to cry because they will never have a life as good as the main character's.... twilight on the author hand can bring about some scarily unhealthy behavior.... amongst its fans...

37. Meyer's books sound like she used a thesaurus to look up every other word (in order to replace them with BIG, impressive sounding words), as a poor attempt to hide her even poorer writing style.

38. I can't feel my IQ plummeting as a read Harry Potter... twilight however is another story (HA literary pun!!!!)

39. The depth of Snape's character is truly astonishing and touching, you can feel the grief he must have for the loss of lilly, and the confusion he must have over his feelings for Harry. he hates harry because of his resemblance to Jamea, but loves and cares for him b/c of his love for Lily and harry's small resemblance to her in his eyes and personality. JKR is able to master these emotions and convey them to her readers with amazing skill. The idea of twilight gives Meyer the opportunity to do the same thing with the complexity of the feelings that edward has for Bella, loving her but having to resist the urge to kill her when it causes him intense pain and then forcing himself to leave her in order to protect her, but Meyer is unable to convey these feelings in a skillful way due to her terribly simplistic writing style and her inability to convey complex human emotions in her seemingly simplistic characters.

40. (continuing on 39 but with a new point) Also, Edward's feelings and struggles are far less original than Snape's. the whole "I'm leaving you because i love you" thing has been used countless times and the "i love you but have to resist you" thing has obviously been used before, this even being acknowledged in the book: "and so the lion fell in love with the lamb". Therefore, even if Meyer had been able to write the books in a skillful way the story line, and characters are so unoriginal that they are practically cliche
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Hedwig11 said:
41. Harry Potter is not based off of a dream the author had. "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live." -Albus Dumbledore.

42. Harry Potter has an overarching theme. Twilight doesn't (Romance and the fact that its a love story doesn't count, thats a genre, not a theme)

43. the ending in Harry Potter is not handed to the reader on a silver platter at the start of the book. The plot line was unpredictable, but not to an extent where it contradicts everything that was previously stated.

44. JKR thinks to do writing exercises to help her deepen her characters BEFORE she writes the books (she spent 15 years planning them out). Unlike Smeyer who randomly decides to write Midnight Sun in order to deepen Edward's character AFTER shes already stuck a label on him that says hes a perfect "Gary Sue", i mean really how deep can someone whos "perfect" deep

45. JKR does not define the perfect man as over-protective, abusive, stalker-like, and over-bearing

46. JKR sticks to the rules and boundaries that she sets in her fantasy. For example "no magic can truly bring a person back from the dead" (the stone in the last book doesn't count because they weren't really back in the same essence that they were before) Who wants to bet if HP was written by Smeyer that she would've made Harry's parents come back by the middle of the first book?

47. HP quotes are so much less cheesey than twilight quotes "If I could dream at all, it would be about you. And I’m not ashamed of it." - Edward Cullen vs. "to the well organized mind, death is but the next great adventure" - Albus Dumbledore
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Kraucik83 said:
48. Snape!

49. In the movies: A great cast of awsome british actors!
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renrae said:
To add to the reading more reason: Many Twilight fans say that they did not read very much before twilight came out. then, they say, they started reading. However, every thing they read is compared to twilight, even if there are not many similarities. See this spot, for example.
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Mrs-Grint said:
Yeah this Twilight fan said this -> "wel befor i read twilight i neva red anything befor and its the best book eva so i think i noe wot im talking about"...... WHAT?!
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PMT said:
50. Twilight has a massive anti-base and there are many, many people who don't like the book. Not so with Harry Potter. There are very few people who hate it. And the HP antis are mainly those saying it's again Christianity and barely have any valid arguments.
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PMT said:
woot. we got to 50. mainly thanks to annoy_anonymous and Hedwig11.
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Mrs-Grint said:
YAAAAAY! And Twilight have less than five!!
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PMT said:
Mrs-Grint, I'm not surprised they have less than five. Could YOU think of a reason twilight is better? I thought not. lol, joking.

51. It can be read by a massive audience. Twilight is really only enjoyed by teenage girls who will eventually realise how bad a book Twilight is when they grow up. Children to adults read Harry Potter. Not only with age, but people who are different and like different genres read it (and enjoy it). Mainly because it has so many genres within it.

52. It's been credited, awarded and acclaimed a lot more than Twilight. And these are by people whose jobs are to critique books.
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Mrs-Grint said:
Nope, Harry Potter is MUCH better. In fact Twilight only have two reasons and both contradict eachother.
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teamjacob said:
53. The characters change with their ages, did you notice that Bella was in school a year or two longer than she was supposed to be?

54. It's written VERY well
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