okay so we all know that both Leyton AND Brucas have HUGE fanbases... so this is the place to get your opinion heard! which is the better couple... Leyton or Brucas?!?
well i personally think there is no comparison between the two. yeah Brucas had their cute moments in high school, but their love wasn't strong enough to make it OUT of high school. when i look at Brucas all i see is a physical relationship, i don't see them having the deep emotional connection that Leyton does. Leyton is clearly meant to be, and Brucas isn't. the only reason Brucas even first started talking was because Brooke practically forced herself on him. i don't know... and i just don't see how Brucas fans could honestly expect Brucas to get back together at this point, it wouldn't make any sense! BUT... that's just me!
And I suppose you are a Leyton fan. So what's your point again? It's already 1am and I haven't been getting much sleep for the past days. My brain's not working so well. Do you want me to contradict your opinion? Like how Leyton is so not meant to be?
Ok I'm not trying to be bitchy, I seriously don't know what to say.
lol as i said in my first post... the whole point of this is just for people to post their opinions about the two couples. which couple you root for, why you like them, why you don't like one of the couples... just whatever! and no i'm not asking you to reply to my comment.. i was just posting my opinion!
ya see when brucas first went out i wasnt a huge fan but i couldnt like leyton because of what peyton was doing to brooke i dont know how mark has the nerve to put them end game its setting a really bad example its like yeh you can screw ya best friend over keep going after a guy even if he has a girl friend he loves (lindsey) you can be misrable and cry for months and everything will be fine you can still have him that jus doesnt happen in real life
I love this idea:D time to get bitcy;) I love debating!
But not in the moode today, but Hell yeh Brucas is the Couple with the most chemistry;) And there aren't enough words to explain how wonderful they are.. but I'm totally gonna fight for the couple i love on this forum§
haha well Janni, that's the point of this forum! i'm tired of seeing all these Leyton vs Brucas forums that won't let you fight, what's the point in that? so yes the point of this is for people to SAY WHAT THEY WANT for a change! and livelovelaugh... i don't really think Peyton ever did anything wrong. okay the times that she KISSED Lucas while he was with Brooke was wrong, but when she was HONEST with Brooke about having feelings for Lucas... i don't think she was in the wrong at all! she was just being honest with her friend, i don't think that qualifies as "going after Lucas". she didn't go after him, she told Brooke that she would BURY those feelings for the sake of their friendship. i think the reason that Leyton ended up together again despite of the Brooke and Lindsey drama is because they ARE soulmates, and they're going to end up together no matter what
okay so its just to get opinions out, no debating? the vs gave me a different impression and i can just see this causing trouble.
i guess i just feel something for brucas that i stopped feeling for leyton too quickly, i watch these relationships and i simply prefer jeyton and brucas over leyton who i find too cheesy, boring and unrealistic, i feel like they flip too easily and lack a build up. i like the fact i saw with my own eyes brooke and lucas struggle and fall for each other, it was unexpected and full of so many different emotions and i love watching their relationship, i find it entertaining whether they are fighting, chasing each other, loving each other, being cute, being angry, being anything, even just friends, i find every scene they have powerful and meaningful where a lot of the time with leyton i feel like its just smiling boring relationship filler.
i feel like brucas are more genuine, more emotional, even with their problems and issues. i like the way they are together, friends or lovers i like what they do for each other. i guess i find brucas more open as well, and they just make more sense to me, for me to believe in leyton i feel like ill have to stop believing in brucas, like leyton undermines brucas and i can't just ignore what a saw and what i felt for years, so in a way i guess i feel like leyton is a lie and i cant shake the feeling they are just so wrong and together for the wrong reasons. i dont like the people lucas and peyton turn the other into. i dont like how peyton who is one of my fave characters lowers herself for lucas, if that makes sense, i think she can be so amazing and every wrong turn i see her do involves lucas and im like wtf peyton is amazing and this boy and her 'love' for him only seems to lower her to do things and act beneath her and i hate that, i hate that they give me reasons to not like peyton. i saw a spark with leyton in season one that drew me in, i also saw a undeniable chemistry and potential in brucas and jeyton as well, so many years later i no longer see that spark in leyton but i still see the same things in the other two relationships, brucas' storylines continue to keep me entertained and watching the show why leytons storylines simply dont do that, i can enjoy their cuteness when they have a funny loving scene but i feel nothing deep, i dont care about it, leytons stotylines usually just have me shaking my head and looking for something else in the episode that made more sense.
*sigh*
okay after reading the last few post im confused, so its for opinion stating, full honesty, being bitchy and debating but we dont ahve to debate. kk so its like the whatever brucas and leyton forum. just a mutual place to like discuss and bash and debate.
the way i see it though, is that Leyton were the ones that were meant to be from the very first episode... and Brooke was the one that got in the way of them. so the whole time i was watching Brucas together, i just couldn't help but think to myself that it should be Leyton that was together, not Brucas. the whole idea of how Brucas got started is just sickening to me. Brooke was just all about sleeping with him, while Peyton wanted more than that. and yeah when Brooke and Lucas first started talking (the night they took care of Peyton after the college party), Brooke was being sincere and sweet, and actually wanted to TALK to Lucas... but then as soon as they started dating, she went right back to her usual self, just thinking about sex all the time. i just see them as being all physical, the rest of their relationship was spent by Lucas having to prove his love for her because even Brooke knew that they didn't have what him and Peyton had.
random thoughts then. i dont really have a prob with peyton being 'honest' with brooke, but i think she went about it the wrong way, like maybe it would have been better to think a little longer about her feelings before telling brooke, because it hit peyton pretty hard and before she herself got her head around it she went and confessed to brooke which kinda exploded the situation and brooke had to get her own head around it while peyton still hadn't done it herself. maybe she should have waited and seen if her feelings remained true or if it has all escalated because of recent events, i think peyton acted rashly but i can understand that caus the idea she was in love with lucas kinda shocked her and she didnt know what to do, she told brooke and then kinda couldnt deak with the backlash of her actions. but what really gets to me is the fact she never told lucas and it wipes out the whole just being honest thing with brooke because she was not being honest because she never told lucas the truth, she lied through ommision or whatever it is i think that was a real crappy thing for her to do considering everything that was happening. if she could be honest with brooke she should ahve followed through and been honest with lucas and dealt with the consequences whether they be for her or against her. brooke couldn't have been ready for the confession so why the hell did peyton wait for lucas to be ready when she didnt allow brooke the same curtesy.
I'm shipping Brucas, obviously, for reasons I can never explain or if I do, some people couldn't or wouldn't understand. The simplest thing I can say is they make me wanna fall in love. I'm getting the vibe like it's fun to be in love.
I really don't care if they are destined or if Leyton are, I just don't buy that crap. I make my own destiny. And I'm not a big fan of cheaters. Don't give me the even God can forgive sermon, I am totally aware of that.
If you simplify things, all the drama isn't realistic. And before everyone forgets, yes, it's a show but we live in a real world. And so the way I look at Leyton is I could fall in love in high school, cheat with him, fall for another guy and yet still be friends with him, realize that I love him, be with him, reject an engagement (Idk if an engagement means you have to get married right away. In our country it may still take mos or years before you actually get married so I don't see the point why Peyton couldn't accept the engagement when she only wanted to wait for 1yr), 4 yrs after still be in love with him, chase him, accept a fone call proposal (and get married in Vegas), and then move in with him. I can't even find the right words to describe it. It's just so un-destined-like.
see i disagree the first time yeh it was sex but the second time they went out it wasnt brooke didnt want to be hurt again he is the first amd only guy she ever loved and she is the first girl he ever loved there each others first love and you can never forget that person you will always ahve some sort of feelings for them and dont try telling me that in season one lucas loved peyton coz he didnt he loved her in season 4 and dont say lucas has always loved peyton coz he hasnt hes always ahd the ability to love her but it wasnt until season 4 when theses feelings were exposed
Brooke was just all about sleeping with him, while Peyton wanted more than that.
But Peyton didn't want the same things at first. I liked Leyton in s1, totally. I also liked Peyton in s1, less the cheating part. Brucas in s1 was just wrong but s3 oh no, def Brucas love.
i totally agree with you dawn about the whole first love things, but then again im a brucaser, i fell for leyton and brucas season one but more so leyton but i dont see what they started as being in love, as falling head over heels in love with a person, that deep emotional connection of the hearts or whatever, connection yes, but not love, brucas didnt have it either originally either, it grew, they fell in love with each other and i saw that over three seasons and it seemed so real, it wasn't 'destined' it wasn't originally planned but it happened for us all to see. and i cant deny that and the way leyton is portrayed makes me feel like ill have to deny that. i probably could except leyton a lot more if it wasnt for the way they are done.
bottom line... here are my reasons why it should be LEYTON, not Brucas
-he has wanted PEYTON since the pilot, he wanted nothing to do with Brooke, she practically had to force herself on him
-all Brucas ever did was fight because all throughout their relationship Brooke knew that she was constantly having to compete with what him and Peyton had
-Lucas CHOSE to save Peyton countless times Skills even said to Lucas "you didn't just happen to save her a couple of times, Peyton happened to be there. But you CHOSE to be there"
-Peyton's feelings for Lucas have always clearly been stronger than Brooke's, which is why in season 4 Brooke finally decided to step aside and let Leyton be together, because it was the right thing to do, they deserved to be with eachother
-Brucas was ONLY HIGH SCHOOL. they have been over for like 5 years now, and we haven't seen ANY romance between them since then... none!
-Lucas has written not just one, but TWO books about his love for PEYTON... how many books has Brooke gotten?
-Lucas has proposed not just once, but TWICE to PEYTON... how many proposals has Brooke gotten?
-in the season 6 premiere, the man asks Lucas "how did you know which one to pick?" and Lucas says "i guess i ALWAYS KNEW"... he has always known that Peyton was the one for him, no matter what previous relationships he has been in
-in season 4, when Brooke asked Lucas to go to the basketball banquet as FRIENDS (just to make Peyton jealous, i might add), both her AND Lucas acknowledged that when Whitey was making his speech about the love he had with his wife, he WASN'T talking about the love that Brucas had, which is why they officially decided that they were OVER
-what Lucas wrote in his first books says it ALL. "Suddenly it was as if the roar of the crowd, the echo of the final buzzer, and the cheers of my teammates were all sounding from a thousand miles away. And what remained in that bizarre, muffled silence was only Peyton, the girl whose art, passion, and beauty had changed my life. And in that moment my triumph was not a state championship, but simple CLARITY. The REALIZATION that we had ALWAYS been meant for eachother, and EVERY INSTINCT TO THE CONTRARY had simply been a DENIAL of the following truth... i was now, and would ALWAYS BE, in love with PEYTON SAWYER." Every instinct to the contrary INCLUDES HIM AND HIS FEELINGS FOR BROOKE!
-His love for Peyton kept him from dying! In season 4 after he had his heart attack, and Peyton was afraid to kiss him, he told Peyton "I didn't die, and do you know why? Because i had to come back, and look into those green eyes of yours, and tell you that i love you. I do Peyton, i love you. You didn't push me away, i came back for you. And as long as it takes, i'll wait for you"
-Everyone in the show even knows that Lucas should be with Peyton... EVEN BROOKE! Brooke has said countless times in season 5 and 6 that they should be together
i could go on and on... but those are just some of the main reasons why it should be Leyton, not Brucas
No, i mean i like Peyton, but she's not the reason why i like Leyton. I actually love Brooke's character... i just don't think her and Lucas are right for eachother
Ok then. I'll try to answer every point. I'm not a good debater, I hate debates and public speaking good thing I'll just have to type what's on my mind! :D
-he has wanted PEYTON since the pilot, he wanted nothing to do with Brooke, she practically had to force herself on him
Brooke practically forced herself, yes, I agree. What can I say, Brooke is pretty clever but not wise or she's just so damn stubborn. lol.
If you're giving me the reason that he wanted Peyton since the pilot, I don't know what to say. I know that's a fact but what does it have to do with Leyton now? I mean you've got to give me something better than this. Are you saying that a person can never change his mind and move on from a past love? I don't know if that's even love, your term is wanted, not love. And yes he wanted nothing to do with Brooke but you can watch s2-3, he did, eventually.
first of all.... everything about Leyton's history does apply to them now, because they're together... so all of their history still applies and is relevant because they still love eachother just like they did in high school. Brucas' history doesn't apply anymore, because it's not relevant. yeah you can talk all you want about Brucas' cute moments when they were together in high school, but you have to look at how they ended things. the note that they ended things on is the most important thing because that's the MOST RECENT state of their romantic feelings for eacother. it doesn't do any good re-hashing their past because since then, they've both acknowledged that they are romantically OVER... we haven't seen anything from them since then that says that those cute high school moments still matter. and the reason that Lucas has wanted Peyton since the pilot, is because he was just always drawn to her. and by wanted, i do mean that he wanted a relationship with her. no matter what the two of them do, they can't stay away from eachother. they both have moments where they seem to have moved on from one another, but one way or another their feelings for eachother ALWAYS come back into play... which just proves the fact that they are soulmates.
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Ok I'm not trying to be bitchy, I seriously don't know what to say.
But not in the moode today, but Hell yeh Brucas is the Couple with the most chemistry;) And there aren't enough words to explain how wonderful they are.. but I'm totally gonna fight for the couple i love on this forum§
i guess i just feel something for brucas that i stopped feeling for leyton too quickly, i watch these relationships and i simply prefer jeyton and brucas over leyton who i find too cheesy, boring and unrealistic, i feel like they flip too easily and lack a build up. i like the fact i saw with my own eyes brooke and lucas struggle and fall for each other, it was unexpected and full of so many different emotions and i love watching their relationship, i find it entertaining whether they are fighting, chasing each other, loving each other, being cute, being angry, being anything, even just friends, i find every scene they have powerful and meaningful where a lot of the time with leyton i feel like its just smiling boring relationship filler.
i feel like brucas are more genuine, more emotional, even with their problems and issues. i like the way they are together, friends or lovers i like what they do for each other. i guess i find brucas more open as well, and they just make more sense to me, for me to believe in leyton i feel like ill have to stop believing in brucas, like leyton undermines brucas and i can't just ignore what a saw and what i felt for years, so in a way i guess i feel like leyton is a lie and i cant shake the feeling they are just so wrong and together for the wrong reasons. i dont like the people lucas and peyton turn the other into. i dont like how peyton who is one of my fave characters lowers herself for lucas, if that makes sense, i think she can be so amazing and every wrong turn i see her do involves lucas and im like wtf peyton is amazing and this boy and her 'love' for him only seems to lower her to do things and act beneath her and i hate that, i hate that they give me reasons to not like peyton. i saw a spark with leyton in season one that drew me in, i also saw a undeniable chemistry and potential in brucas and jeyton as well, so many years later i no longer see that spark in leyton but i still see the same things in the other two relationships, brucas' storylines continue to keep me entertained and watching the show why leytons storylines simply dont do that, i can enjoy their cuteness when they have a funny loving scene but i feel nothing deep, i dont care about it, leytons stotylines usually just have me shaking my head and looking for something else in the episode that made more sense.
*sigh*
okay after reading the last few post im confused, so its for opinion stating, full honesty, being bitchy and debating but we dont ahve to debate. kk so its like the whatever brucas and leyton forum. just a mutual place to like discuss and bash and debate.
I'm shipping Brucas, obviously, for reasons I can never explain or if I do, some people couldn't or wouldn't understand. The simplest thing I can say is they make me wanna fall in love. I'm getting the vibe like it's fun to be in love.
I really don't care if they are destined or if Leyton are, I just don't buy that crap. I make my own destiny. And I'm not a big fan of cheaters. Don't give me the even God can forgive sermon, I am totally aware of that.
If you simplify things, all the drama isn't realistic. And before everyone forgets, yes, it's a show but we live in a real world. And so the way I look at Leyton is I could fall in love in high school, cheat with him, fall for another guy and yet still be friends with him, realize that I love him, be with him, reject an engagement (Idk if an engagement means you have to get married right away. In our country it may still take mos or years before you actually get married so I don't see the point why Peyton couldn't accept the engagement when she only wanted to wait for 1yr), 4 yrs after still be in love with him, chase him, accept a fone call proposal (and get married in Vegas), and then move in with him. I can't even find the right words to describe it. It's just so un-destined-like.
Do I even make sense?
But Peyton didn't want the same things at first. I liked Leyton in s1, totally. I also liked Peyton in s1, less the cheating part. Brucas in s1 was just wrong but s3 oh no, def Brucas love.
-he has wanted PEYTON since the pilot, he wanted nothing to do with Brooke, she practically had to force herself on him
-all Brucas ever did was fight because all throughout their relationship Brooke knew that she was constantly having to compete with what him and Peyton had
-Lucas CHOSE to save Peyton countless times Skills even said to Lucas "you didn't just happen to save her a couple of times, Peyton happened to be there. But you CHOSE to be there"
-Peyton's feelings for Lucas have always clearly been stronger than Brooke's, which is why in season 4 Brooke finally decided to step aside and let Leyton be together, because it was the right thing to do, they deserved to be with eachother
-Brucas was ONLY HIGH SCHOOL. they have been over for like 5 years now, and we haven't seen ANY romance between them since then... none!
-Lucas has written not just one, but TWO books about his love for PEYTON... how many books has Brooke gotten?
-Lucas has proposed not just once, but TWICE to PEYTON... how many proposals has Brooke gotten?
-in the season 6 premiere, the man asks Lucas "how did you know which one to pick?" and Lucas says "i guess i ALWAYS KNEW"... he has always known that Peyton was the one for him, no matter what previous relationships he has been in
-in season 4, when Brooke asked Lucas to go to the basketball banquet as FRIENDS (just to make Peyton jealous, i might add), both her AND Lucas acknowledged that when Whitey was making his speech about the love he had with his wife, he WASN'T talking about the love that Brucas had, which is why they officially decided that they were OVER
-what Lucas wrote in his first books says it ALL. "Suddenly it was as if the roar of the crowd, the echo of the final buzzer, and the cheers of my teammates were all sounding from a thousand miles away. And what remained in that bizarre, muffled silence was only Peyton, the girl whose art, passion, and beauty had changed my life. And in that moment my triumph was not a state championship, but simple CLARITY. The REALIZATION that we had ALWAYS been meant for eachother, and EVERY INSTINCT TO THE CONTRARY had simply been a DENIAL of the following truth... i was now, and would ALWAYS BE, in love with PEYTON SAWYER." Every instinct to the contrary INCLUDES HIM AND HIS FEELINGS FOR BROOKE!
-His love for Peyton kept him from dying! In season 4 after he had his heart attack, and Peyton was afraid to kiss him, he told Peyton "I didn't die, and do you know why? Because i had to come back, and look into those green eyes of yours, and tell you that i love you. I do Peyton, i love you. You didn't push me away, i came back for you. And as long as it takes, i'll wait for you"
-Everyone in the show even knows that Lucas should be with Peyton... EVEN BROOKE! Brooke has said countless times in season 5 and 6 that they should be together
i could go on and on... but those are just some of the main reasons why it should be Leyton, not Brucas
-he has wanted PEYTON since the pilot, he wanted nothing to do with Brooke, she practically had to force herself on him
Brooke practically forced herself, yes, I agree. What can I say, Brooke is pretty clever but not wise or she's just so damn stubborn. lol.
If you're giving me the reason that he wanted Peyton since the pilot, I don't know what to say. I know that's a fact but what does it have to do with Leyton now? I mean you've got to give me something better than this. Are you saying that a person can never change his mind and move on from a past love? I don't know if that's even love, your term is wanted, not love. And yes he wanted nothing to do with Brooke but you can watch s2-3, he did, eventually.