I just found out and it is no secret that Mr. James David Rodriquez, AKA: James Roday/Shawn Spencer, and co-star Maggie Lawson/Jules are seeing each other off the set.
Good deal now let's get them together where it counts. In front of the camera, and hope tyhe writers done get all screwed up mess up a good thing by giving them all kinds of problems to deal with. For once let's have a happy relationship.
Oh, and I have I ever mentioned how much it tickles me to know these two date in real life? I think that is just the ultimate romance right there.
And you know? Proven fact, when a couple is dating on and off the screen, makes for a better show. As obvious as that sounds, its a good thing to take notice of. I don't know if anyone ever watched Gilmore Girls, but one of the main female characters, the daughter, Rory, played by Alexis Bledel, started dating Jess, played by Milo Ventimiglia. In real life, they had been dating for awhile, and continued to while they were an onscreen couple, and it sells so much better! They're scenes together, couldn't have been better, and I realize now in hindsight why that was. They weren't just good actors, ha. Can't wait to see what Jamie and Maggie have in store for us :P
I generally don't like the cutesie names like Shules. Yuckie! To me it's like some idiot taking a normal name and changing it for a child. I find it stupid not uniquea!(No spell error) My opinion and little joke.
A long time ago I dated a girl who played my leading Lady and Love interest in two plays. A lot of people thought we'd end up together for ever. Didn't happen. But I was jealous when she married a guy in the band I didn't like. Weird thing was I didn't love her. I guess it was that I had kissed her hundreds of times on stage and off and felt she could do better. lol.
I hope James and Maggie get married and live happily ever after. It's getting harder and harder these days. But I'm a dreamer, even for others.
As I always like to say."Oh what fun I could have had if only I knew them. All the things I know today, when I were just a KId".
I really like James and Maggie together. I think it could help the show if they are together in real life, because then they are more comfortable around one another when they act. It helps so they can concentrate on the acting more than how they, or the other person, feels outside of their characters. And I do believe that James and Maggie are both very talented actors. Not to mention great chemistry!
But however, if their relationship doesn't make it then,for lack of a better term, that just sucks. But I think they are amazing together.
With so many visits you might want to continue the fantasy with (Ideas for the Episodes) which will lead you to, (Shawn and Jules "The Hook Up")
Just something to do while we wait for next episode for real.
Hey Councilman, I'm back. Sorry I went MIA for awhile, just been really busy with life. Plus, the show's hiatus really dries up a lot of the conversational topics :P
So now that our show is FINALLY coming back, what's everyone been thinking? Anyone else a tad nervous, based on the promos, that Sean's little "dilemma" that ended the last cycle of shows may be ignored a bit? I just don't see anything personal in the previews, but then again, they are promos, their job is to hook you in on the show's concept and humor, not the actual meat of the story lines.
First, the idea that a Shawn/Juliet relationship will tank the show is pure bunk. Whats the diff, he's with Abigail now! This show runs on Shawn/Gus fuel, and the reserve tank is the supporting cast. Second, Abigail doesn't fit with Shawn eventually. Why? She's not quirky. From what little I have seen from her character shes the "grounding" influence, the "time to grow up Shawn" school marm aka family counselor. Ground Shawn? You do that and there is no show. Juliet IS quirky. My case in point? Remember Jules as the roller girl that broke the nose of the other teams rollergirl and told Chief Vick, "yeah she curled into my wingspan?". Or Jules the Valley girl sorority girl " Beta Kappa Theta?" Or her hilarious part as dance instructor to Shawn and Gus "Sharp as Cheddar?" Already I feel the "pop" in this 4th seasons shows just isnt there like it was. Just because Shawn and Juliet start dating doesnt mean things would change much..he goes out and solves cases and she does her thing like always..things have changed more in a negative direction on this show with Abigail in it as the GF. The slowed down Mr. Mature Shawn will kill it. Give me the I just solved the case jumping up and down,doin the dance,fist bumping Shawn any day.
The only thing that should happen if Shawn were to either grow up or become semi normal could be the show would be less disjointed, less childish, and maybe cause the writers to stop writing totally childish stupidity in to the show for Shawn and Guss to do. An Evening with Mr. Yang could have been great instead of just good if Shawn and Gus hadn't both done dumb arsed stuff that made no sense and only detracted from the case. Quirky is fine but childish nonsense is just stupid. Abigail would be a perfect match if Shawn were capable of doing anything even close to adult in nature, but the writers are too stupid to be able to use clever humor rather than immature silliness. The only way being Mature would kill the show is if the writers done grow up some along with the cast. It's easy to entertain children but adults require a more logical thoughtful clever cerebral approach. i think by making the show sillier than ever they're killing it because it's the same old, same old every week.
I agree mostly with what you said about the writers. Their problem is they have decided to minimalize Racheal Leigh Cooks prescence on the show. She wasn't even mentioned in High-Noonish, unless I missed it. To replace the Shawn-Jules flirtatious banter with ..umm..errr..nothing is a mistake. I think they need something alot more substantial with the GF relationship between Abigail and Shawn, but I think they are trying to show he's not fully committed to that relationship. What's your opinion on this..
They had a moment in the High-Noonish episode where Shawn, Gus, Juliet and Lassie are sitting at the table in the police station conference room...Shawn is dressed in his hilarious Sheriff costume and is sitting across from Jules. He finishes what he was explaining with a tip of his cowboy hat to her, and she blushes a little bit and tries to keep a smile off her face. The writers have re-placed the outright flirting with subtle moments, like the tip of the hat, between Shawn and Juliet.
And that, I believe, is a BRILLIANT way for the writers to change up the show without loosing what made it great to start with!
Councilman, again, I completely agree with you, and I sense some cynicism in your words as well, lol! No, but it's true and totally called for. I don't know what's happened lately, but from last seasons second half to the beginning of this season, everything has really started to deteriorate. Remember when the show was funny because the anecdotes and charm of Shawn cracked a smile across everyone's face? Now, that semi-blatant, but also subdued (at least, compared to now) comedy has detracted into this incessant need to make everything "goofy", have Shawn and Gus parade around with random antics that, sure, may amuse after the first 12 times, but get old really fast and have become redundant, pointless, and "wtf?" worthy.
A major disappointment is Gus. What happened to the Devil's Advocate in him? He was always the best friend dragging his feet to play along, a reasonable, fearful, grounding yang to Shawn's insane, ridiculous, risk-taking, outspoken yin. Now he's simply the sidekick who's morphing into another Shawn with mere seedlings of resistance scattered around every so often. I hate it, there's no balance, and now every line and every moment is one big joke (not to mention far-fetched, even more so than usual).
To make a point about Jules (since this is the Shawn and Jules thread), Abigail appears to be the chick who attempts to change and settle the wild ways of her new man, where Jules is the girl who puts up with - no - engages in Shawn's rambunctiousness. She tolerates and even understands him at times. As big of a hoax as his whole psychic position is, Jules is a believer, and that alone is a reason why the two of them together work.
Well Housewhore4 & Waitforit13 I believe you'll both agree this last episode The Devil is in the Details was a major improvement and Abigail only got an honorable mention. It was king of subtle but cute when Jules nodded in agreement with Shawn about women faking the big O.
I agree with you Waitforit13 that they are going to continue to minimize Abigails role but keep her around until Shawn & Jules finally make a real move toward each other. I predict when that happens it will be a made passionate moment followed depending on how far they take it by a cooling off period. I only hope that it Abigail breaks it off with Shawn so she doesn't get hurt. I'd hate to see Shawn betray her trust. But them be a bit clinical I can see the writers letting Abigail either catching Shawn kissing Jules or Shawn calling Abigail Jules in the midst of passion. Te would be a bummer.
Can you believe she is 30 years old next month? Wow who have thunked it?
Hi Councilman and HW. I really liked the Devils episode, but one part bothered me. When the "possessed" girls' mother asked if they wanted anything, Shawn came off as obnoxious with his comments. I don't mind him being that way with Lassiter, but with a woman worried about her daughter seemed much. Other then that I really enjoyed the episode.
In a future episode this season Gus and Lassiter will work a case. I see a possible Shawn/Juliet pairing of a case possibly somewhere down the line as a vehicle for something more in depth between them,who knows.
Waitforit13, I could not agree more the antagonistic relationship with Lassiter goes back to episode one when Shawn first claimed to be Psychic and Lassiter got Pi$$ed because Shawn figured out Lassiter and his Partner Lucinda were doing the horizontal Hula. There is no way in real life a normal person would be such a jerk with a distraught mother. But if you remember back to "The Shawn Vs The Red Phantom" episode Shawn did the same thing to the mother of the missing, asking for pancakes them not eating them. The writers get childish I think if you confronted them about it, they'd say: Will Shawn grew up not knowing if his father even loved him and blah, blah, blah, BS.
But this is about Shawn and Jules and right now even Abigail has been MIA most of the time.
I don't want to see Jules and Shawn ever become a couple on the show. They have their private little thing to deal with and having to it play out on camera might have a bad effect on the real life thing. Besides I like the Shaw and Abigail angle she's so pretty and sweet and as somebody said she could be just what Shawn needs to make him grow up and be more adult.
And you're right there C-Man Miss Cook Does not look 30, 22 maybe.
Chuckster, I understand your concern for James and Maggie, but honestly, the "sexual tension" in the writing has been there from day 1 of Maggie Lawson's arrival to the set. When J&M started going out, they had to probably realize that their characters would one day maybe be an item as well. I don't know, I tend to give actors the benefit of the doubt when it comes to their interactions, me believing they thought it through before choosing to start seeing one another. Who knows, it might have not come to mind, but I can't see them glossing over the idea.
Here's my question: finale this Friday, what's everyone thinking? I assumed from the season premiere that Shawn would date Abigail throughout part 1 of 2 of this season, break up with her and hint at something with Jules at the finale of part 1. Then again, I already explained my fear of "Date Abigail, break up to be with Jules to find out Jules is with someone else, she breaks up with him and then finally together next summer's end". I don't think the writers have given any indications of a romantic fall or heavy pick up with the three characters in question (minus the little winks and nudges of Shawn and Jules thrown in sporadically throughout this season), but Shawn's disappearance may be the "life perspective" he and Jules need.
I tend to agree with the Chuckster in a way but as you said there
Housewhore4 there has been tension from the outset. In episode 2 of season one when Jules was introduced she looked back at Shawn as she left the Cafe As I believe I have said before indicating and interest in him. And that was before her character knew who he was. So the writers wee setting up the tension all the way back then. But I hate to think character wise that Abigail is going to be hurt because as the Chuckster says she's so damn sweet and pretty and i hate to see anyone even my imaginary friends be hurt because of insensitive writers. lol
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And you know? Proven fact, when a couple is dating on and off the screen, makes for a better show. As obvious as that sounds, its a good thing to take notice of. I don't know if anyone ever watched Gilmore Girls, but one of the main female characters, the daughter, Rory, played by Alexis Bledel, started dating Jess, played by Milo Ventimiglia. In real life, they had been dating for awhile, and continued to while they were an onscreen couple, and it sells so much better! They're scenes together, couldn't have been better, and I realize now in hindsight why that was. They weren't just good actors, ha. Can't wait to see what Jamie and Maggie have in store for us :P
A long time ago I dated a girl who played my leading Lady and Love interest in two plays. A lot of people thought we'd end up together for ever. Didn't happen. But I was jealous when she married a guy in the band I didn't like. Weird thing was I didn't love her. I guess it was that I had kissed her hundreds of times on stage and off and felt she could do better. lol.
I hope James and Maggie get married and live happily ever after. It's getting harder and harder these days. But I'm a dreamer, even for others.
As I always like to say."Oh what fun I could have had if only I knew them. All the things I know today, when I were just a KId".
But however, if their relationship doesn't make it then,for lack of a better term, that just sucks. But I think they are amazing together.
Just something to do while we wait for next episode for real.
So now that our show is FINALLY coming back, what's everyone been thinking? Anyone else a tad nervous, based on the promos, that Sean's little "dilemma" that ended the last cycle of shows may be ignored a bit? I just don't see anything personal in the previews, but then again, they are promos, their job is to hook you in on the show's concept and humor, not the actual meat of the story lines.
First, the idea that a Shawn/Juliet relationship will tank the show is pure bunk. Whats the diff, he's with Abigail now! This show runs on Shawn/Gus fuel, and the reserve tank is the supporting cast. Second, Abigail doesn't fit with Shawn eventually. Why? She's not quirky. From what little I have seen from her character shes the "grounding" influence, the "time to grow up Shawn" school marm aka family counselor. Ground Shawn? You do that and there is no show. Juliet IS quirky. My case in point? Remember Jules as the roller girl that broke the nose of the other teams rollergirl and told Chief Vick, "yeah she curled into my wingspan?". Or Jules the Valley girl sorority girl " Beta Kappa Theta?" Or her hilarious part as dance instructor to Shawn and Gus "Sharp as Cheddar?" Already I feel the "pop" in this 4th seasons shows just isnt there like it was. Just because Shawn and Juliet start dating doesnt mean things would change much..he goes out and solves cases and she does her thing like always..things have changed more in a negative direction on this show with Abigail in it as the GF. The slowed down Mr. Mature Shawn will kill it. Give me the I just solved the case jumping up and down,doin the dance,fist bumping Shawn any day.
He won't tell Abigail hes not psychic.
He will tell Juliet before a marital plunge.
And that, I believe, is a BRILLIANT way for the writers to change up the show without loosing what made it great to start with!
A major disappointment is Gus. What happened to the Devil's Advocate in him? He was always the best friend dragging his feet to play along, a reasonable, fearful, grounding yang to Shawn's insane, ridiculous, risk-taking, outspoken yin. Now he's simply the sidekick who's morphing into another Shawn with mere seedlings of resistance scattered around every so often. I hate it, there's no balance, and now every line and every moment is one big joke (not to mention far-fetched, even more so than usual).
To make a point about Jules (since this is the Shawn and Jules thread), Abigail appears to be the chick who attempts to change and settle the wild ways of her new man, where Jules is the girl who puts up with - no - engages in Shawn's rambunctiousness. She tolerates and even understands him at times. As big of a hoax as his whole psychic position is, Jules is a believer, and that alone is a reason why the two of them together work.
I agree with you Waitforit13 that they are going to continue to minimize Abigails role but keep her around until Shawn & Jules finally make a real move toward each other. I predict when that happens it will be a made passionate moment followed depending on how far they take it by a cooling off period. I only hope that it Abigail breaks it off with Shawn so she doesn't get hurt. I'd hate to see Shawn betray her trust. But them be a bit clinical I can see the writers letting Abigail either catching Shawn kissing Jules or Shawn calling Abigail Jules in the midst of passion. Te would be a bummer.
Can you believe she is 30 years old next month? Wow who have thunked it?
In a future episode this season Gus and Lassiter will work a case. I see a possible Shawn/Juliet pairing of a case possibly somewhere down the line as a vehicle for something more in depth between them,who knows.
But this is about Shawn and Jules and right now even Abigail has been MIA most of the time.
And you're right there C-Man Miss Cook Does not look 30, 22 maybe.
Here's my question: finale this Friday, what's everyone thinking? I assumed from the season premiere that Shawn would date Abigail throughout part 1 of 2 of this season, break up with her and hint at something with Jules at the finale of part 1. Then again, I already explained my fear of "Date Abigail, break up to be with Jules to find out Jules is with someone else, she breaks up with him and then finally together next summer's end". I don't think the writers have given any indications of a romantic fall or heavy pick up with the three characters in question (minus the little winks and nudges of Shawn and Jules thrown in sporadically throughout this season), but Shawn's disappearance may be the "life perspective" he and Jules need.
Housewhore4 there has been tension from the outset. In episode 2 of season one when Jules was introduced she looked back at Shawn as she left the Cafe As I believe I have said before indicating and interest in him. And that was before her character knew who he was. So the writers wee setting up the tension all the way back then. But I hate to think character wise that Abigail is going to be hurt because as the Chuckster says she's so damn sweet and pretty and i hate to see anyone even my imaginary friends be hurt because of insensitive writers. lol