Critical Analysis of Twilight Club
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posted by nuxi
{edited, added some stuff, just an informal consideration of a few of the arguments that support the accusation}

"Bella Swan is a sociopath."

It’s an extreme statement, to be sure. However, it’s not one to be dismissed offhand, without consideration towards its arguments.

First, here are a couple definitions of the term sociopath.
-Random House Dictionary:
a person, as a psychopathic personality, whose behavior is antisocial and who lacks a sense of moral responsibility or social conscience.
-American Heritage Dictionary of Cultural Literacy:
Someone whose social behavior is extremely abnormal. Sociopaths are interested only in their personal needs and desires, without concern for the effects of their behavior on others.

I'm going to discuss what seems to be the two main indicators: (1) antisocial behavior or abnormal social interaction habits and (2) thought pattern focused so extremely on the self, that negligible interest is given to anything else. Notice that neither of these are necessarily destructive or detrimental to outside society. Rather, it reflects a disturbed frame of mind and way of thinking that often leads to criminal behavior. Particularly, indicator (2) could be simplified as "egocentricity," however the word gives the false insinuation maliciousness. Keep in mind that this means that it just doesn't occur to a sociopath to think of other people outside of how they affect the sociopath themself. They may not even be able to understand how this or anything they do out of self-interest is wrong.

Part I: Is Bella antisocial?
For the time being, we are putting aside her interactions with the vampires.

Some people who are extremely sociopathic or anti-social are not concerned with appearances and openly engage in “behavior deviating sharply from the social norm” (from Meriam-Webster definition of anti-social). However, many sociopaths learn to skillfully mimic the superficial behaviors that indicate social interest in others and empathy. In this way, they are able to appear to normal to those who only see these superficial actions. Luckily, Twilight was written from Bella’s point of view, allowing us to see somewhat into her true values, concerns and intentions.

Bella certainly engages in social interaction on a daily basis in Forks. However, from before she even arrives in Forks, she has no true interest in the people around her, including her father. Her narrative makes it clear that all of her interactions and conversations were purely the result of courtesy and to hide that her true social interactions (ability/desire to bond with those near her) are abnormal. Despite many of her classmates going out of their way to welcome her warmly, Bella quickly judges everyone she meets and insults or makes fun of them. In New Moon, Bella’s entire pretense fails and she is so obviously antisocial for months that her behavior disturbs her classmates and family. However, the rest of the time she is sure to engage in the minimal amount of superficial social interaction required to appear normal.

As with her habit of calling her father “Dad” only to his face, Bella displays no actual respect for him outside of superficialities. She lies to him about her boyfriend and other things, allows Edward to sneak into his house every night, and even states she doesn’t think she needs her father’s permission to go on a long road trip alone to an unfamiliar city. Bella shows no signs of remorse or concern for these things and outwardly mimics a perfectly gracious and respectful daughter throughout.

Then she sees the Cullens. They are the only people in the town that Bella can be bothered to take an interest in. Their superficial beauty, wealth, and obvious exclusivity from the rest of society represent a social status above Bella’s own. “The isolation must be their desire; I couldn't imagine any door that wouldn't be opened by that degree of beauty.” And Edward, the available one, is her way in. Edward becomes the key to Bella’s own happiness, fulfillment and meaning in life. She quickly becomes obsessed with what he has to offer her.

Part II: Bella Lacks a Social Conscience
Exhibit A: Bella finds out a coven of vampires is in living in town. They tell her they don’t hurt people, but she has no reason to trust them. Did I mention they’re blood-sucking, people-eating-by-definition VAMPIRES? On top of that, there are bodies showing up and Bella knows the perp is a vampire. Does she try to warn or protect the entire town of very vulnerable succulent humans? No, she’s too busy trying to protect the cover story of dear Edward and his friends. Even if he kills her, she doesn’t want anyone to know it was him. She has no concern for the fact that she would be making it easier for him to prey on other people in the town because her feelings for Edward make him more important than anything in the world, even if he turns out to be a BLOOD-THIRSTY MASS MURDERER.

Exhibit B: Bella wants to be a vampire. She has no reservations about this. She wants that increase in status no matter how it affects other people. She is told that newborns begin with extreme bloodlust, that she would be overcome with the desire/need to kill people and eat them. Edward says he will protect her from hurting anyone, but she is told that newborns are extremely strong as well. It’s not difficult to imagine Edward being over-powered. However likely or unlikely it is, there exists the possibility that Bella becoming a vampire could result in the deaths of innocents. She does not even consider for a moment the risk she is taking with other people’s lives. What. The. Hell? That takes a HUGE lack of social conscience and empathy.


Conclusion:
I’m not formally trained to make a diagnosis, but it seems clear to me that Bella has sociopathic tendencies or is severely abnormal in some way. Or maybe I'm just desperate to believe that there is no way a sane human could think the way Bella does.


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posted by RobynPotter
{i did not write this myself, but i found it ridiculously funny and thought it needed to be posted here}

Book 1. Twilight:
Edward: Hey.
Bella: OMG, I'm so silly. And horny.
Edward: Yes. I'm dangerous. I sparkle.
Bella: OMG you're a vampire!
Edward: Yes. Let's go play baseball.
James: I like your girl, Edward. Gotta eat her.
Edward: Roar.
James: Omnomnom Bella.
Bella: OMG I'm screaming in agony! Yes, I will be a vampire!
Edward: I'm gonna kill you, James! I'm gonna suck Bella as well.
Jacob: Oh, hi there!
Book 2. New Moon:
Edward: Oops, gotta go.
Bella: OMG don't leave me! OMG I'm so depressed and dying in...
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There are 5 things you need to know-

This article is basically:
1. My story on how I got sucked into the Twilight Universe.
2. My life story on how Twilight has changed me. A lot.
3. A rant on why I like and hate about the series.
4. A confession on why I can't seem to get over with hating and loving it.
5. An opinion about how my life could have been without Twilight.

WARNING: Overall, this article is about... why I think Twilight isn't that 'bad' after all. It's going to be lengthy. YOU HAVE BEEN WARNED!

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This had me wondering for a while and to...
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I dislike the books, but after seeing image after image labeled "Twilight sucks", as well as comment after comment with the words, I'm beginning to see why we can be accused of being "haters."

"Sucks" is not a swear word. To say something sucks is not going to send you to hell. But it is derogatory, and immature, and does not lead to any real discussion. Well, unless some mature Twilighter comes along and say, "I see that you think Twlight sucks. Why?" That might spark discussion. But the twilighter has the upperground in that debate, considering the anti has already shown her immaturity by...
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posted by nessienjake
Created:~Alice~


Q: What to Edward and a Christmas tree have in common?
A: Their balls are for decoration.



Bella: You're pale white and ice cold...I know what you are.
Edward: Say it. Say it!
Bella: Vanilla Ice Cream!



Edward: Bella...
Bella: Yes?
Edward: I just want to know how much you mean to me.
Bella: Aaw...
Edward: You know, what with me being an ancient VIRGIN vampire and everything...
Bella: Yeah?
Edward: Well, people were starting to think I was, y'know-
Bella: Gay?
Edward: ...
Edward: Old fashioned.
Bella: ...
Bella: Oh.



Q: How do you kill a brain?
A: Put it in the same room with Ms Meyer and her books and wait for two minutes.




Q: What did bella say when the shops ran low off the glitter?
A: yeeew!!! Edward you suck!!!!
Whether you hate Twilight so much it fills you with a burning rage so powerful it's full extent can only be expressed through the medium of interpretive dance, or love it so much you plan to sail out to international waters to avoid those pesky laws that prevent you from marrying a book, or perhaps even exist in the non crazy middleground between the two, overexposure can be a pain. Especially when it gets to the level where suddenly everything becomes linked to Twilight. You hear the name 'Edward', you think 'Cullen', the word 'sparkles' you think 'vampire', the words 'howler monkey' you think...
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Yes, it's true, everyone! Twilight has changed our world in several ways!!

No longer are streets near movie theaters and bookstores safe! I haven't seen even one free from screaming fangirls (and yes, screaming fanboys) when the new movies come out and even after it's all been done for about a month or so. Yeah, there are still girls running around in "I <3 guys that sparkle" t-shirts carring on about how great the twilight movie was at the movie theater in my town.

The world now has fewer trees than ever before, just because there where over millions of pieces of paper used for the twilight...
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As the title suggests out of boredom I made a family out of the kittehs here who I talk to most, giving kittehs roles within the family from how I view them.

God:
The God of the family is Bastet, She is mighty and furry, and I give Her daily offerings of cream, catnip and balls of yarn. All hail Her Glorious Fluffiness.

MomCat:
Everyone knows who MomCat is(if you don't its DearHeart), she's loving and kind and nurturing. She keeps us in line and makes sure RenCat(renrae) hasn't had too many blue Smarties.

GodCats (AuntieCats and GodMotherCats didn't sound right):
These two I view as funny and kind...
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posted by kayleebabee
this is a study i have conducted to ask what is the big deal weith twilight and edward cullen I asked my littlesister tasha what she thought of the global phenomenon that has all the worlds women gripped in an edward cullen orgasm.

Me: why do you think Edward Cullen is *shudders violently* hot?
Tasha: (I have made her answers sound like she has n intellectual brain cell through hours of trranslating twilight gibberish) I think it is mostly because he is unnatainable and perfect.
(what she actually said was: squeeeeeeee edward cullen i want him but cant have him because that bitch bella is his...
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posted by monLOVEbrucas
Bella Sawn.... Hmmm.


If my bestfreind has loved me, kissed me, tried to ruin my relationship with my boyfriend, i wouldn't be all cool with him loving my child.... including because she's young and his old.
Bella didn't react properly.
I wanted her to get really mad, i wanted Jacob to be banned from seeing Nessie, not have 10 minutes go by, and his aloud to hold her again.

They say you dont choose love, love choose's you.
I believe in that but Reneseme, didn't get a choice? Somehow this imprinting thing assumes the person the wolfs are going to fall inlove with are going to love them back?

In twilight saga this is the thing i do not understand or get no matter how much i try...
and I just felt the need to let that out LOL even though i have so much more i would like to let out.
posted by OCFan123
Hey there! So recently I just put a Bella and Jacob article, which I really enjoyed writing, and of course sharing my opinions. Some people have said they would want me to write a article here about Edward Cullen, so here it is! Hope you enjoy it!
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Now, there's no way you haven't heard of him. He is currently every girls dream boy, has the most fans on fanpop when it comes to character, and alos has a cult. Everyone loves him.
But my question is...why?
They say he's romantic, a gentleman. Really? So what if he uses chessy lines and says stuff like "You are my life now." or "The lion fell in love...
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Ever since its recent creation I have not been able to stop visiting this spot (Not that it's a problem...haha). I decided to sit down and ponder and from my pondering came this list.

1. Everybody rates EVERYTHING.
I mean EVERYTHING. Nothing goes unrated and everyone always rates fairly.

2. The Forums are always buzzing.
I absolutely love visiting the forums. Someone is always there looking to chat and the comments are sure to put a smile on my face.

3. I can have intelligent and enjoyable conversations
I don't feel like I talk to someone and all they have to say is, "OMG you love (insert...
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posted by xxXsk8trXxx
This article may be offencive to a lot of Twihards. Viewer disgrettion is advised




Edward: Bella,I'm dangerous, stay away.
Bella: But Edward, I love you!
Edward: Me too, but I'm dangerous, so you have to stay away from me
Bella: But Edward, you're the love of my life! We have to be together!
Edward: Fear me and my sparkiling skin! *takes off shirt*
Bella: Wait a second, you sparkle?
Edward: Isn't it frightening?
Bella: No. Sorry to break it to ya Edward, but it's gay
Edward: I kissed Emmet one time...
Bella: How old are you?
Edward: 100
Bella: Eeew! Aren't there laws about 100 year olds and 17 year olds...
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Some of these are intended to be jokey, some are intended to be serious, none are intended to offend :)

1. It helps focus 'recreational hate' into one convenient area. What I consider to be recreational hate is hate that has no real purpose, like an annoying unintentional hobby. Like it's useful hate to hate injustice or animal cruelty, it's recreational hate to hate Paris Hilton or the fact that Sienna Miller is considered a style icon despite the fact that I've never seen her in an outfit that didn't look like she was talked into wearing it by a stylist who secretly hates her guts. Thing...
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posted by AliceHaleCullen
I have noticed, that on the Twilight Series spot if a certain person adds decent content when a certain person is online, it gets rated very low. As much as I am a fan of Twilight, it makes me wonder what it's all about anymore.

It shows how ridiculous the fanbase for it really is when people get bullied and bashed for having an opinion, or adding good content at the wrong time because they don't like the person who has added it.

I'm sure i'm not the first person to mention this, but it has recently caught my attention alot. Spam uploaders who add thousandsof pictures ask everyone to rate there...
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added by Jasper_LUVER
Source: Google
It's called "Daughter of Darkness" by V.C. Andrews.

This book was just aweful. It's about a 17 year old vampire girl named Lorelie Patio (Mary Sue alert!) whos only purpose in life is to be her Daddy's sex slave. This book is filled with shallow evaluations of beauty, anti feminism, poor morals, and disgusting turn of events.

Lorelie has three sisters who are manipulated and emotionally abused by their father. The worst thing about it is that it's never seen as a bad thing. It's disguised as fatherly love. None of the characters recognize the manipulation or abuse. You have to read between the...
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This is under 'opinion' so please don't send any hate, it's just a though I had.

I have read various explainations both on this site and others about things antis point out as plot holes. (Ex: Renessme, Imprinting, Vampire Transformation, ect.) And I think that it's great that some people do think it through and don't just take it because it is what was written. What I don't understand is why you should have too.

In my mind, when an author creates a story with a new or different breed of creature they should explain it atleast to some degree.

I'm not saying she needs to explain every little thing,...
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posted by XxGigglesxX
1. Twilight is the product of an immature writer. It reads like something out of my notebook from freshman year.
2. The only difference between Twilight and fanfiction.net is marginally better grammar.
3. And even that isn’t so great sometimes. English major fail.
4. I’ve read fanfiction that is lightyears better than Twitripe.
5. The prose is purple amethyst! Deep, luscious, dazzling amethyst that scintillates and glitters incandescently in the sun!
6. Not to mention, it’s also insanely repetitive.
7. THESAURUS ABUSE! Fancy words are not necessarily better words.
8. The storyline is trite and...
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