Harry Potter Vs. Twilight Club
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posted by FishermansWife
I've read plenty of arguments stating that Bella Swan is anything but a normal teenager. But, if we skip the whole supernatural love triangle part of the series (Which, granted, is most of it) the question remains: Is Bella Swan a normal teenager?

Lets take a look at the average teenager. More often than not, teenagers are stubborn, make bad choices, and consider themselves the center of the universe. I'm not intending to insult anyone here, this is what I have observed. We don't do it all the time though, other times we can be selfless, make great choices, and happy. We also sometimes go through a "dark" state, such as a state of depression, a Gothic or "emo" stage, et cetera, that can last a very long time or a very short time.
So lets see how Bella fits into these behaviors:

Bad Choices: Skipping college was not a good choice YES

Stubborn: Goes to Forks even though her mother insists that she doesn't have to. YES

Considers herself the center of the universe:I'm sure its there, but it doesn't really show up in the book, so NO

Selfless: Most of the time a selfless act by a teenager is something like watching a younger sibling and skipping a movie with friends, but you could say Bella goes above and beyond in this aspect in New Moon, so YES

Make great choices: I can't see many good choices that Bella makes, most are bad choices disguised as good, so while she may make a few small ones, NO.

Happy: She seems pretty happy when shes with Edward. YES.

Dark State: She was chronically depressed in New Moon after Edward left, so YES.

Bella's average teenager score is 5/7.

Now, we'll take a look at Bella's personality, and go deeper into those common acts by teenagers.
Bella describes herself as a bookworm, with plain brown hair, brown eyes, and looks that are not spectacular. She happily cooks and cleans for her Dad. That takes off a few points, any good Dad would make meals for her, even if he is depressed about his divorce. (How many years after the fact? Shouldn't he have moved on? Maybe Renee was a vampire) As I read the book, found myself picturing her with wire-rimmed glasses and a few blemishes. But at Forks High-School, not one, not two, but three boys display obvious crushes on her. (Is that normal? Wouldn't teenage boys be a little less obvious? Whatever. Thats for another day) SO, as I read I decided she just had some self-esteem issues. Perfectly fine. Events go on. Bella makes a few friends. They go on a trip to La Push. Until She finds out Edward is a vampire, she acts just as slightly nerdy teenager should.

So, if you ignore most of the series, Bella is normal.
But that's ignoring most of the series.

She attracts the attention of Edward Cullen, vampire. Then the attention of Jacob Black, soon to be werewolf. But this article was about her life before the whole vampire thing, so while Bella may not be normal, lots of teenagers aren't normal, almost to the point were it is normal not to be normal.
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Here is a list of flaws found in Twilight:

1. Quileute Tribe - She added imprinting, which isn't even in their history, as a way to manipulate the relationships and have automatic 'true love' . If I was Quileute I would feel insulted.

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2. Basic Biology - It is stated in New Moon that an ancestor of the Quileute tribe transferred his soul to a real wolf when his earthly body had been destroyed. In Breaking Dawn, Edward reveals that the Quileute tribe are not real werewolves, but shape-shifters. How can it be that this transformation is genetic for the descendants of the tribe?

3. Armed forces...
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Who's your favorite character from both series?Why?
Favorite scene from each book in both series? Why?
Favorite book from each series? Why?
What would you change in each book? Why?
What did you like in each book? Why?
What are the morals you learned in each series?
What were the happiest/saddest/scariest/funniest moments in each series?

*WARNING: Long+Spoilers*

My favorite character in Twilight would have to be Angelea. She's very smart and
kind and she doesn't judge anyone. Even if she may not agree with her friends,
she's still always there for them.
My favorite character in HP would have to...
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*I used to like Twilight until I started really reading it and it seemed like the more I heard or read into it, the more negative things I would find. This is coming from an unbiased point of view; Me being a fan of Harry Potter has nothing to do with my opinion.


Why I hate Twilight and think it is a bad example of love:
•     Bella is incredibly disrespectful, insensitive, and rude to her own parents. She even calls them by their first names. She thinks her dad is a ‘dumb*** and constantly says he can’t look after himself and she calls her own mother an idiot all because...
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