Harry Potter Vs. Twilight Club
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posted by alexisn10
Believe it or not, I do not hate Twilight. The plot is fair, internesting setting, a lot of the characters are good, and not to mention the brilliant fight scenes! The soundtracks are lovely as well as the actors/actresses. Overall, I would give the entire series a C+. I would give it a higher grade if it wasn't for the poor writing, rambling, and somewhat extreme fans. But what's really the anchor of that sinking ship is the books' protagonist and narrator...


Bella Swan.

Of course there's a main character in almost every book I read that I really do not like. For example: in Hunger Games, it's Peeta. In Harry Potter it's Ginny. However, unlike Bella, I don't like Ginny and Peeta because they're almost like distractions to the main characters (Katniss and Harry of course). I don't like Bella simply because she's just a bad person overall. My negativity towards Twilight has nothing to do with the generic comments such as: 'Vampires don't sparkle' or '[insert name here] can't act" but it as almost everything to do with Bella. I have a bone to pick with her, and in all honesty I would like to beat the daylights out of her with it.

1. Bella with Charlie
I absoloutely love Charlie. He's Quiet, loves sports, patient, loving, caring, and most imporantly LOVES his kid. In the first two books, Bella was pretty respectful to Charlie. I completely understood the "Just let me go, Charlie!" at the end of Twilight because she was simply trying to protect him and the note she left Charlie in New Moon when she was going off to save Edward (because she knew she was going to be punished afterwards). But Bella went totally out of hand in the end of New Moon. If you've read the books, by now you should know that Charlie really enjoyed Bella's company and it was almost like having his wife back. In New Moon Charlie tells Bella that she is grounded (which was aware of) and that she is not allowed to see Edward Cullen ever again because he's a bad boyfriend. In return Bella says "Fine, I'll move out and live with the Cullens." That was a really low blow. And Charlie looked absoloutely dissapointed with himself. But of course Bella was having too much fun packing her things to finally live with her boyfriend to notice her hurt her own father was. Charlie was right, first of all. Being completely unaware that Edward was a vampire, I totally understood why Charlie wanted them to break up. It was their second break up and the first one was what lead Bella to "move back in with her mom" and tell Charlie what his own wife told him when she was leaving. Bella even put up a front when Charlie wasn't allowing Edward to come to the house more in Eclipse. Well Bella, let's think: you returned home from your first break up with Edward covered in blood because you "fell down the stairs and through a window" all while Edward was trying to "talk you out of moving out", Edward leaves her in the woods 2 days after her birthday crying from their break up, Edward is the reason why Bella stares out of her window for several months and screams in the middle of the night, Bella runs away to Italy while her father is at a funeral because of Edward, and after all of this Edward returns and everything is back to "normal". But of course Bella is too selfish to notice and Smeyer is trying to make it look as if Charlie is the bad guy. Charlie was a great father to Bella but when Edwards comes into her life, she's a total jerk in return and pays him back by making him dinner. Bella is more respectful to Carlisle who is not her father.

2. Bella with Mike Newton/other human friends
I find it funny when people think that I'm kidding when I say that Bella should have ended up with Mike Newton. Mike Newton was the only person in the entire series that stayed by Bella's side for the entire time. Angela Weber was very loyal as well. If you've read at least of the beginning of Midnight Sun then you'd know that both Angela and Mike really liked Bella when they first met her. But of course Bella ignores them because Edward Cullen is the best boyfriend ever (even though he dumped you left you depressed for several months and has tried to kill you). Bella never noticed that Mike, Angela, her other human friends, and Charlie were some of the only people who cared about her but, like I said before, her head was too wrapped around Edward and she refused to appreciate anything else.

3. Bella with Jacob
I really liked Twilight and beginning of New Moon Jacob. He was a great friend and could have easily been a great boyfriend. Bella had her chance to take her relationship with Jacob and soar off with it. What made me 'Team Edward' was when Edward returned which totally changed Jacob into a different person (due to hatred and jealousy). I believe that Smeyer altered almost all of his characteristics and made them darker to make Edward look like an angel and Jacob like a devil. Anyway, towards the end of Eclipse we're all fully aware that Jacob was in love with Bella and Bella has absolutely no idea what to do to keep both Jacob and Edward happy. Kissing Jacob was a last resort option. But at the same time, did she really have to kiss him? Jacob is an awful friend for persuading his ENGAGED best friend to kiss him. At times like this, Bella's selfishness should have came out. She needed to defend herself properly. Her boyfriend proposed her 24 hours ago. On her finger is his mother's ring. Now is time to make a choice, Bella. She was wrong for kissing Jacob and he was wrong for initiating it. I do feel for Bella because she had no idea what to do in this situation. But cheating on your fiancee is never the solution.


4. Bella with Bella
Bella had absoloutely no idea what she wanted in life aside from Edward. She put Edward before her own self, her family, and her friends. She turned down amazing schools for Edward and wasted what was supposed to be the funnest stage of her life all for Edward. What makes he really not like her is the fact that she did all these things for Edward all while there is no love in the relationship. They say 'I love you' every so often but they fail to really show it. Their relationship is built off of obsession and lust. I still find Edward and Bella's marriage disturbing because it was only done for sex. Unlike Harry Potter, Twilight is a strictly female YA/A book whereas Potter is for all ages and both sexes and since Smeyer has a bigger fanbase of young girls, she should be selling POSTIVE messages to to. Bella is supposed to be the ideal head female that we are supposed to look up to. This means that we're supposed to marry for sex, listen to a majority of out boyfriends/husbands' demands, obsess about them, almost kill ourselves when they leave us, throw away all of our hopes and dreams to accomidate their needs. But in Bella's case, what hopes and dreams? She has no characteristics aside from 'clumsy'.

"I was pleased by how often my face – both of my faces, hideous human and glorious immortal – cropped up in her unconscious thoughts." Breaking Dawn page 469

"I guess my brain will never work right. At least I’m pretty." Breaking Dawn page 406

Wow, thanks Bella. You're really giving us human girls a great name! I guess I'll have to stab myself with poisonous vampire venom to look like Beyonce..
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This is how I feel about HP vs. Twilight. Twilight fans feel free to state your own opinion but I would prefer no one fights. These are my opinions and everyone is entitled to their own.

I know there are many of these articles on here but this is my own and wanted to share it. Sorry about how long it is! And please excuse any typos!


1. The character have personalities and depth. They grow and change and even minor characters are so complex
-Dobby: Dobby was a house elf that belonged to the Malfoy family. At great risk to himself, he tried to keep Harry from danger by attempting to persuade him...
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I DID NOT WRITE THIS. IT IS JUST BEING COPIED AND PASTED.

First of all- Harry Potter isn’t just a childish bedtime story. Nor is it shallow. A story based off a single dream has no depth. Twilight fans will never what kind of man James was before he turned vampire. Rowling, however, spent 15 years planning every little detail. She created a world within our own for her witches and wizards. She has based their heritage off of real mythology and history. Their spells are in a dead language and they have organized governments with strict laws. She has followed her characters’ stories from...
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Before the twilight fans began a riot at a hot topics.
Before the twilight fans began a riot at a hot topics.
Twilight is a best-selling, supernatural teen romance series containing the events of a human (Bella), a vampire (Edward), and a werewolf (Jacob)situations in Forks, WA as the books progress. It has attracted a significantly high fan-base and it's movies grossed to over $700 million box-office. Much of the saga's acclaims range from young fans of the books and movies, all the way to the current President of the United States. Such acclaim is also met with the negativity of the public that are against the over-all plots and messages from the saga itself. The conflicts of interests towards the...
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Ok, some of this is opinion, some is fact, so don't critisize it because it is my opinion. And don't be rude in the comments section!

1. If the Cullens are "vampire's" that don't burn in the sun, don't drink blood, young, rich, immortal and beautiful, then why are they in Forks, Washington!? In HIGH SCHOOL!?

2. You say this story is about a Vampire, Werewolf and Human. I won't disagree with the human part, but the Cullens are NOT vampires. They don't drink blood, they don't die from a stake to the heart, they don't burn in the sun, and they don't have fangs. Jacob isn't a werewolf. He doesn't...
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Intelligence, I was not born with. Talent, minimal. Endurance, plenty. I wish I could be a Hermione Granger. The world is a cruel place for a woman and a brainy one at that. The close I come to is a Ron Weasley.

Hermione, from her introduction, comes off as a snooty know-it-all. An outcast who never gets along with anybody because she knows too much. But as we move on in the series she becomes the strongest pillar of the trio. She thrives on competition and always comes on top. Being a muggle-born and to be accepted into the wizard-world she faces discrimination and isolation from many but...
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posted by FishermansWife
I've read plenty of arguments stating that Bella Swan is anything but a normal teenager. But, if we skip the whole supernatural love triangle part of the series (Which, granted, is most of it) the question remains: Is Bella Swan a normal teenager?

Lets take a look at the average teenager. More often than not, teenagers are stubborn, make bad choices, and consider themselves the center of the universe. I'm not intending to insult anyone here, this is what I have observed. We don't do it all the time though, other times we can be selfless, make great choices, and happy. We also sometimes go through...
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I found these fascinating, thought you guys might too, :)


Bellatrix - “Bella” is a construct of the word “bellum” meaning “war” and “trix” refers to “a woman in power.” Bellatrix is therefore known as the “Female Warrior” and is also the pale yellow star indicating the left shoulder of the constellation Orion, the Great Hunter.

Blaise - Blaise was the teacher of Merlin. From the Roman name Blasius, which means “lisping.” From the Latin “blaesus.” A famous bearer was Blaise Pascal, a French mathematician and philosopher.

Draco...
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OK, there are millions of people who write thest kind of articles, but please try and control your patience, and read this.

The Love
Harry Potter has love. Not lust.
Hermione didn't stare and Ron and say "OMG he is soooo hot, I am in love" no, Hermione and Ron started of as hating each other. Halfway through their first year they became friends. In HBP and DH they both started getting feelings for each other. They love each other for who they are. That is real love. Twilight on the other hand has no real love. Bella and Edward fall in love with each other, they kiss, Bella gets pregnant. ALL THIS...
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One thing I've noticed in general is that anti's tend to make a pretty big deal out of the Twilight vampires sparkling. I've seen people saying things like real vampires don't sparkle, vampires not sparkling was a fact, and that it was gay of them to sparkle. Okay, of ALL the things to criticize in Twilight, people are going after the SPARKLING? Seriously?

First off, at least where I'm from, calling something “gay” as an insult is considered really rude and distasteful. Besides being rude and homophobic, it's also generalizing and stereotyping. Just because something sparkles doesn't make...
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Whoa. Its the final battle already? It seems like this all started a week ago....which it did....so...yeah.
NOTE: I am a Twilight fan, so do not suggest that I think all Twilight fans are crazy. I also think HP is better than Twilight, though. Just a little.
NOTE:I like HP and T, I am not trying to make fun of either, I'm just having fun with some of the ideas.
NOTE: okay, I'm just putting this note in to build suspense.
NOTE: This is it. The big one. The end. The last one. The one and only. The awesome one. The one that is the end. The climatic one. The one that, if you do not read, will send...
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I was typing up an response to iluvtwilight_ for my personal enjoyment when someone reported the question and had it removed. I felt much frustration as what was once a very entertaining activity was reduced to pointlessness. This makes an already depressed person like me more depressed. Siriusly, I want to committ suicide now...

No, I don't... not yet. But I considered leaving for a brief moment.
But to address this problematic issue. I present: link. O.o What's this? Wikipedia has a specific project devoted to adding humour to the site? OMG, on such a serious site?

Yes, even on such a serious...
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So Harry Potter is MUCH better than some stupid book about wimpy girls and sparkly fairies. First off:
ALL the Twilight people are UGLY! I mean seriously, Taylor Lautners muscles are gross and he has ugly man-boobs. He looks like a creep on steroids. and Robert Pattison looks like a bum, and Kristen looks like a drug aggict as Bella. I mean, EW! Who wants to watch a movie with eyesores like them? Harry Potter is WAY better, I mean we have HOT guys, and the girls aren't half bad either! I mean. we have Lucius, Draco, Sirius, and Snape to say the LEAST! Plus like a zillion other eye-candy dudes!...
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Discussion regarding Twilight vampires and reply to Drisina at link

First Part:
The thing is Drisina, one cannot by fiat change a legend to whatever one very well pleases with. Vampires have been in mythology from the 17th century, e.g. Countess Elizabeth Bathory who alledgedly drank her female servants blood to stay young.

So what Stephenie Meyer does is that she takes the vampire-myth, and discards the gorier details and imperfections, replaces them with what she thinks they should be and et voila, we have Edward Cullen.

Now I shall dissect why most people think its a bad thing to do. Recall...
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