Harry Potter Vs. Twilight Club
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This is a (long) rebuttal to KatiiCullen94's argument, the title of which is in is article's title. (Though you've probably all seen that by now.) I haven't included her points in this, so it will be necessary to read her article first.

1. The majority of people in this world cannot relate to Bella. Tell me, how many people can go to a new school and automatically be the prettiest and most popular girl there? How many girls can say that they have FIVE males lusting after them?

Bella does care for people other than herself - her boyfriend. That's it. She was perfectly happy to hurt her father on several occasions in order to be with her boyfriend - and if you value your boyfriend over your own parents, then there is something seriously wrong with you. She also treats her friends like crap, and still expects them to be loyal to her. Even if it was possible to relate to Bella, it would not be a good thing if a person actually did in real life. It's not a very good thing if a person:
a) treats her friends badly when they have done nothing to her, and they still try to remain loyal to her.
b) constantly needs a man in her life to rescue her from the situations she gets herself into.
c) is willing to hurt her father's feelings to be with her boyfriend.
d) puts her life (and the lives of others) at risk in order to hear her boyfriend's voice in her head.

There are many more reasons, but I don't want to spend too long on one point.

2. Yes, Twilight is indeed more original than some other vampire stories. I can't deny that. However, originality is a blade that can cut both ways. (As any blade can...I don't know...) Honestly - vampires that sparkle? It's original, but it's taken the one flaw a real vampire possesses and made it into a "non-flaw"; thus, Meyer can retain perfect characters for her books. Perfect characters are not good. Have you ever heard the saying "Perfection...is apt to be dull"?

3. By the way, Twilight is also in a narration format. Every fictional novel in the world is in narration format. Please get your terminology right. Twilight is in first person narration (AKA point of view) while Harry Potter is written in third person narration/POV. You should specify which form of narration you are referring to, otherwise you'll confuse a lot of people.

You cannot understand the thoughts and feelings of all characters when writing in first person POV, because 1st person only follows one person's thoughts and feelings - the narrator. Bella is the narrator of the Twilight books (I generally don't classify Midnight Sun as one of the books, because a) it's not published or even complete and b) it is pretty much one of the former books with a new name and different POV - it only tells us what we already know), and thus we only have access to her thoughts and feelings. In Harry Potter, third person POV is used. This makes the Harry Potter books deeper, because while most of the thoughts and feelings we see are Harry's, we can also see the feelings of others through his eyes. This maintains an unbiased tone - unlike Twilight, as I will explain later.

While both 1st person POV and 3rd person POV each have their benefits, Twilight's use of 1st person means that the series is extremely biased. Jacob is presented as a jerk in Eclipse because the books are in Bella's POV, and we don't see him in any other way. Likewise, Edward is presented as a god-like figure: again, because the books are in Bella's POV and she is a biased narrator.

4. The fact that Twilight doesn't kill the main characters is one of the reasons why it is such a boring read. It is extremely predictable - every book in the series serves up a happily ever after to Bella on a platter. Breaking Dawn is most suggestive of this - had Meyer actually included the fight that every single reader had anticipated excitedly, and then killed at least one significant character on the Cullens' side (such as Jacob, one of the Cullens or one of the other Quileutes), many people would have been happier with the book. Killing off characters when a war scene is written makes a book much more interesting and realistic. During the Battle of Hogwarts, the fact that many people died reinforces just how realistic the sequence is. (Go watch a movie with at least one major battle sequence, such as Lord of the Rings, and then tell me that it's better for nobody to die during a war.)

I also find it extremely sad that you were once a HP fan and then converted. What devil possessed you to force you into making such a terrible decision?

5. While there is indeed a friendship present between Bella and Alice, it is sadly underdeveloped. If Meyer had developed this enough to make it into a sub-plot (for Eclipse, probably), the books would have been a more interesting read. Unfortunately, such a subplot doesn't exist, and we are instead left with rants about how hot Edward is and Bella's constant whining.

As for Bella and Jacob's "friendship", it is one-sided. To Bella, Jacob is merely a boy for her to play with while she gets over Edward. She leads Jacob on, then finds herself in a little bit of trouble when she realises that Jacob has fallen in love with her (what did she expect?) and she solves this by breaking his heart.

6. Good villains? I laughed for about ten minutes straight at this. James is not a good villain. He was introduced in the last 1/8th of the book. He is not scary - if James was real, I would probably only have to blow on his face to make him run away like the wuss he is. James inspired fear in eight people - Voldemort inspired fear in the hearts of thousands, if not millions.

Victoria's eyes are piercing red, and she is pure evil? What exactly is your point here? Try reading Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire - I think you'll find that Voldemort has piercing red eyes, and is pure evil.

P.S. Oh yes, I am absolutely TERRIFED of Victoria's army. An army of newborn vampires which are completely and utterly incapable of any kind of combat.

7. If each character of Twilight has one beautiful quality, each Potter character probably has about three. Rosalie was a good character - you are absolutely right about her feelings. Her backstory was quite good (apart from, you know, the Great Depression "not existing" for her because her father is a banker. Check XDRoseLuvsHP’s article “Response to ‘Analysis of the Opposite!’” for further detail). However, due to Meyer’s use of first person narration, Rosalie is hated by fans that are taking Bella’s side and calling Rosalie a stuck-up bitch – because they only have one side of the story.

However, please do give me a list of Bella’s “beautiful qualities”. Seriously – Bella has no beautiful qualities. She’s a beautiful person, but how does this count as a quality? It’s what’s on the inside that counts, not the outside. (Bella could learn A LOT from that sentence.) While you’re making a list of Bella’s beautiful qualities, do likewise for Edward. He is abusive, a pedophile and also a stalker. He also appreciates Bella for nothing but her smell – again, Edward could learn from liking a person’s inner qualities instead of their outer ones.

8. Why are you bringing the movie cast into this argument? The cast has nothing to do with why Twilight is better than Harry Potter. (Excuse me, I need to go wash my mouth and fingers for saying such a thing.) Still, I will need to bring the cast into this again to rebut this point. The cast of Harry Potter is far more talented than the Twilight cast. Daniel, Rupert and Emma are capable of pulling more than one facial expression while acting – which Kristen and Robert don’t seem to have mastered. (Can I just add that Robert’s considerable acting skills are evident in the Goblet of Fire movie? Not so in Twilight.) And by the way, Kristen Stewart has been seen smoking marijuana in public – I don’t think this is the mark of a good role model. She also treats her fans like crap.

9. Again, I laughed for a good fifteen minutes at this point. All of the questions in Twilight have been answered – we know why Edward couldn’t read Bella’s mind, as we see her retract her shield into herself so that Edward can read her mind. Not that there were that many things to debate in Twilight in the first place – probably the only important question was “Edward or Jacob?” This only serves to point out exactly how anti-feminist Twilight is – why is there no option for fans that want Bella to become an independent woman that doesn’t need a man in her life at all?

In Harry Potter, on the other hand, there are questions upon questions that fans were able to ask themselves. “Is Harry a Horcrux?” “Is Dumbledore really dead?” “Whose side is Snape on?” These are questions stemming from Deathly Hallows alone. Even the epilogue leaves many questions unanswered – “Who did Neville and Luna marry?” (We only found this out in one of Rowling’s interviews.) “What happened to the rest of the DA?” “How have the Weasleys coped since the death of Fred?” “What the hell is a Hufflepuff?” (Just kidding…;D)

10. There have actually been several vampire/human love stories before Twilight - Stephenie Meyer's concept isn't entirely new. The Vampire Diaries series (by L.J.Smith) was first published in 1991, while the Sookie Stackhouse books were first published in 2001. Vampire/human love stories aside, we see millions of “forbidden love” stories. Romeo and Juliet is the classic example – and yes, Meyer said that she based her books (I think it was New Moon) off this Shakespearean story. However, she then had the nerve to say that New Moon was of an equal level to – even better than – Romeo and Juliet. Also – Shakespeare didn’t have to rape a thesaurus to make his works seem intelligent.

By the way, inter-species love stories are not something completely new and different. The story (well, sub-plot) of Arwen and Aragorn came around in the 1940s-1950s – the story of Edward and Bella came about in 2005.

I hope this was a sufficient response for you – I would post more reasons for HP’s superiority to Twilight, but I don’t want to go off track. Maybe another time.

And I know I used parentheses - brackets - a lot up there, but I've just eaten 100 grams of chocolate and I'm feeling rather hyper. Plus I sidetrack a lot when I talk, so you could say that my typing reflects my talking in that respect.
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If I were to write “Breaking Dawn” (minus the part of the Volturi getting arrested by the police), here’s how it would go:

1. Bella beats up Jake for imprinting on her daughter

2. Volturi get word about Renesmee’s birth and rush off to Forks, bringing an entire army with them

3. Cullens get allies and several people who just flat-out hate the Volturi.

4. Wolves get in on it

5. Big battle ensues and several allies (like Tanya and Rosalie) die

6. Renesmee runs away and hides and Jacob follows her

7. Alice and Jasper show up with SEVERAL half-breeds

8. Volturi freaks out; one fathered a half breed...
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I am sure lot of you won't agree with me but anyway this is my opinion. This riot going on that HP is better than Twilight is beyond me. These books are riveting and thrilling in their own way.
First Twilight, yes I too realise it has too much of love and unrealistic charecteristics in people. However you have to say it is great piece of imagination. We have to understand that HP plot is far bigger than that of Twilight. It is a plot where the survival of the world depends on one character whereas in Twilight it is just the fate of two star crossed lovers and the obstacles faced by them. HP...
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DEAR ...,
SORRY PEACE IS NOT AVAIBLE NOW TRY AGAIN LATER!!!!
-peace
p.s. peace is having tons of fun at the Malfoy’s

(My entry)
Dear diary,
Today I wrote a poem for Draco:

Deep inside
Really
All I
can think
Of is you

He wrote back:

Peace,
I love you more than you can know
Your soft green eyes,
Your seventh toe,
Your curly brown hair,
And pale cold skin like tile,
But most of all your gentle smile

We spent an hour snogging. At one point his mum walked in on us and screamed at Draco for having his shirt off. Then she yelled at me for snogging him to much. Then she left the room and never came back.
~Peace...
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(Warning: Lots of swearing. Sorry, but it's the only way to get my point across.)

Okay, let's get this over with- THE CULLENS ARE NOT FUCKING VAMPIRES. I don't know what the hell they are, but they are not vampires.

Sunlight: A vampire cannot go into the sunlight, as they will burn. There are a few exceptions though; In Romania, there are special vamps called Moroi, Dhampirs, and Strogoi (e.g. Vampire Academy). Also, vampires could wear special magical jewellry that can let them go out in the sunlight (e.g. Vampire Diaries, Buffy the Vampire Slayer, Angel).

In Twilight, there is none of this....
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There once was a seventeen year old girl named Sandy. One day in July 2008, she saw her sister, Astrid reading a book with a slightly torn red ribbon on it. Sandy curiously asked Astrid what she was reading. Astrid told it was part of a book series called Twilight and that it was really good. Sandy has a few doubts but decided to go ahead and read it. When she did, she liked the Twilight Series. Sandy wasn't usually interested in teen romance a whole lot of the time and more often liked stuff with a huge amount of action in it, but she really liked it and wanted to read the other two. Sandy...
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This was not written by me. It was written by the twilightsucks.com community. I would try to learn from it except that I fail at Health terms:

Copy and Pasted from the Twilightsucks.com community:
Wikipedia says:

Quote: In literature, a plot is all the events in a story particularly rendered towards the achievement of some particular artistic or emotional effect. In other words, it's what mostly happened in the story or novel or what the story's general theme is based on, such as the mood, characters, setting, and conflicts occurring in a story.



The concept of plot and the associated concept...
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Here's a list of reasons that don't count out of the first 500.
Reasons that are purely opinion, untrue, or just ridiculous.
I didn't include all the reasons I think are wrong, to be nice

12. Twilight WILL fad out it is a fad and many fans are on it because of the Bandwagon effect and because Robert Patterson is good looking But Harry Potter will be around forever
17. Harry Potter can be read by any age group. Twilight is geared more towards angst 15 year olds.
18. The characters in Harry Potter GROW, they grow with you as you read. The first books start out fairly tame but mature as you mature....
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The plain text is a copy/past of link.
The bold text is my own add ins to relate the situations to Bella and Edward


Love is a tricky emotion. There are some things that feel like love but they are much too superficial to be the real thing. Real love takes time and doesn't happen overnight. Here are three things that people often confuse for love.

I don’t personally believe that love can really be defined by anyone, but oh well. People like to try new things.

Lust A.k.a, Twilight


Lust is the feeling that is often mistaken for love at first sight. Lust is an intense and sudden attraction to somebody...
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I knw that many of you hv read the books and watched the Harry Potter series. At first, I liked it very much, but later on, it got really boring to the point I had to force myself to watch tthe movies and read the books. I know that I don't "have" to force myself to do anything, but there was no other way to spend my holidays. One of my friends, who is a Potter fan recommended this series to me and gave me all the movies and books. I finished reading all the movies and also finished reading all the books. At the end, I was really disappointed.
I hate Harry Potter. Now, don't go saying that I...
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