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The Best Viewing Order for a Star Wars Marathon
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The much publicized upcoming Cinemax Star Wars marathon got me thinking about the optimal viewing order for the Star Wars saga. The logical approach is to view the movies in episodic order (which is how Cinemax plans to air it). But I'm not so certain that this is the best way to watch Star Wars.
What follows is a rundown on the only four *viable* ways to view the Star Wars saga that I can think of. Sure there are other viewing orders, but these are the only ones that make sense from the standpoint of storytelling and continuity. Here goes: Method 1: By Order of Episode This approach is clearly the viewing order intended by George Lucas. Quite simply, you watch the movies by episode number starting from Episode I: The Phantom Menace and Finishing with Episode VI: Return of the Jedi. Why it works: This approach provides a strong high-level story arc centered on the rise, fall and redemption of Darth Vader. You essentially move chronologically through his life from childhood all the way to his death and final redemption by his children. You also get the added benefit of nicely spaced emotionally wrenching episodes (3 and 5) contrasted with the more emotionally upbeat episodes 4 and 6. Where it fails: The biggest problem with this approach is not in plot continuity but with cinematic continuity. Since Lucas wrote and directed the original saga (episodes IV-VI) a good two decades before the Prequels (episodes I-III), there's a jarring shift in the quality of special effects, set design and dramatic pacing between the two trilogies. No where is this more pronounced than between culmination of the Prequels, The Return of the Sith and the film that started it all the original Star Wars: A New Hope. Watching the lightsaber duels from Episode IV after coming off of Episode III is beyond jarring. It's almost as if the entire universe went stupid between the two films. Jedis got lamer, spaceshipts got lamer...everyone got kinda...um...lame. Sure you can pass some of it off on the fact that these are "dark times" and that the heyday of the Jedi had long passed, but comon' that argument can only take you so far. In addition, there are some key plot surprises from the Original Trilogy that are completely ruined by the Prequels. The biggest of them being the revelation that Darth Vader is Luke's father. But other nifty twists also get lost in this viewing order, like the moment when we realize that this little green toad living on Dagobah is, in fact, Yoda the "great Jedi warrior" or that Leia is Luke's long-lost twin. The episodic viewing order all but renders these details meaningless to those watching the saga for the first time. Verdict: This is a viable viewing order, but not my favorite. The special effects and cinematic pacing continuity problems are significant enough that I cannot recommend this as the best method for watching the Star Wars saga. In particular, I would avoid this viewing order for Star Wars n00bs. Grade? B+ Method 2: Chronological Order This viewing order is another popular one where the films are viewed in chronological order in which they were made and released. So one would begin with the Original Trilogy (episodes IV-VI), watch those episodes in order and then jump to the Prequels (episodes I-III). The variation to this method by the more cynical long-time Star Wars enthusiasts is to watch the Original Trilogy and just bypass the Prequels altogether - but we won't get into that heated debate here ;-) Why it works: This approach eliminates most of the problems that crop up with the episodic viewing order. Since you begin with the oldest of the episodes filmed, the technological transitions are much more natural. The slow lightsaber duels and less complex space battles give way to increasingly rich effects and more acrobatically choreographic fight sequences. Additionally, all the great dramatic twists (the Vader-Luke-Leia connection included) are preserved. Where it fails: The biggest problem with this viewing order is that the celebratory conclusion to the Star Wars saga lands smack dab in the middle of the marathon (with Episode VI) and instead of ending on a high-note, with the end of the evil Empire, you end with the death of Padme and the fall of Anakin Skywalker/birth of Darth Vader. The Verdict: As someone who grew up with Star Wars as a kid, this viewing order has a strong nostalgic pull to it. But the fact that the saga - if viewed in this fashion - ends on such a low, low note with Episode III makes it difficult for me to recommend it to everyone. For long-time Star Wars fans with a strong nostalgic bent, this is the way to go. For everyone else, I'd pass on watching the saga this way. Grade: B Method 3: The Prequels as Flashback This viewing order is really interesting. You begin with the Original Trilogy and watch Episode IV, 'A New Hope' followed by Episode V, 'The Empire Strikes Back'. But instead of watching Return of the Jedi, you hold off and instead watch the three Prequels. Only after you have finished the prequels do you watch Return of the Jedi to cap off your marathon. Why it works: This approach tries to reconcile the biggest problems with the chronological and episodic viewing orders: plot and cinematic continuity. The oldest episodes are placed first in the viewing order while the newer episodes are nested in the middle. The climactic finale provided by Episode VI, however, is still retained. Additionally, some of the key dramatic twists are still preserved such as the surprise revelation in Empire Strikes Back about Luke's parentage. The prequel is preceded by a nice cliffhanger from episode V and episode III also serves as a nice cliffhanger before the final culmination of episode VI. The special effects continuity is mostly contained since episodes IV and V have the most dated appearance (episode VI holds up relatively well against the space battles from the Prequels). Where it fails: In this viewing order the Prequels represent a flashback. This device might be a bit confusing to some viewers. The fact that the flashback is not a short sequence but a full-extended trilogy might also present some problems. One workaround would be to skip Episode I entirely so that the flashback only lasts for two films. The verdict: I must admit, I have a soft-spot for this viewing order. In many ways it makes the most sense for both long-time fans as well as newcomers. Also, if the 3-episode "flashback" is overwhelming it seems like it would be relatively easy to drop epsides I and even II entirely. The most abridged version therefore being IV-V-III-VI. I particularly like the fact that the Darth Vader as father and Yoda as warrior twists are preserved AND we still get the fantastic finish from Return of the Jedi. Grade: A Method 4: Alternating Trilogies This is the final *viable* viewing order, imho. This approach has you alternating between the Prequel and Original Trilogies starting with Episode I. So the viewing order would be: I - IV - II - V - III - VI. Why it works: This sequence tries to highlight the similarities between the two trilogies through juxtaposition. So with the first third of the marathon, we get to see Anakin's coming-of-age on Tatooine, followed by Luke's. We also see their initial responses to the world of the Jedi and early mentorship (from Qui-Gon and Obi-Wan respectively). This viewing order also provides an intriguing one-two punch finale in the back-to-back airing of episodes III and VI. Where it fails: Plot and episodic continuity suffer greatly in this viewing order. This is probably also the most unorthodox of the four ways to watch the saga. Verdict: This is one of those viewing orders that sounds better on paper than in real life. Not recommended for general Star Wars audiences, but may serve as an interesting diversion for die-hard fans. Still, I'd be hard-pressed to consider this as one of the definitive approaches for watching the series. Grade: C+ The Bottom Line Now that we've looked at the various ways to watch the Star Wars saga, what do I recommend? Well, I think it's safe to say that the standard approaches - chronological and episodic - are still the safest. I'd choose the chronological order for first-time viewers purely for the dramatic twists that are otherwise ruined by an episode-ordered showing. That being said, I still think that the flashback approach provides the best overall experience that remains somewhat true to Lucas' desired viewing order while bridging some of the cinematographic continuity problems. The alternating order is best left for die-hard fans who want to watch the series in a whole new light. But enough of what I think, what do you think is the best way to watch a Star Wars marathon? By the way - if you plan to watch the Cinemax marathon, you can whet your appetite on these Star Wars saga teaser spots they've been running on cable.
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i'd always say watch the classic trilogy first and then the prequels. and since most would agree ep3 was the best of all the prequels, it'll be nice way to finish off the saga (connecting both classic trilogy and the prequel series).
with those who have the time, i'd highly recommend watching clone wars between ep2 and ep3. it's animation true, but adds depth to the saga.
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I know it's not "canon", but it fills a nice gap between eps 4 and 5.
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watching classic first, you'd appreciate the questions answered with the prequels. where'd stormtroopers come from, what's boba fett's origin, why is palpatine's face disfigured, etc.
But what about Ep VI, you ask? Well, it tucks very neatly between Eps V & VI. If you think about it, you have a "historical prequel" leading into a main story line, that has a flashback interjected right before the grand finale. So, just when we learn that Darth Vader is Luke's father, we flashback to see the whole transformation as portrayed in Ep III.
I have watched the entire trilogy as a marathon twice in this method, and each time it just seems to fit together neater and neater. The viewer isn't really left with loose or hanging ends, and all the storylines seem to tie together nicely.
However, I would propose a 6th viable option. Skip episodes I-III and rent the Clone Wars animated series, then watch IV-V. I know this will probably irk some folks, but the recent trilogy does nothing for me except ruin the older trilogy, something I love with all my heart.
As stated by Greedo and others, there are serious problems with continuity and story from the latest arc to the first. Which boggles my mind, as Lucas knew where everything was going to end up..
I was as excited as anyone to see the new trilogy. I wasn't hardcore enough to stand in line for weeks, but I did go to each one on opening night.
After Episode I, I found myself disappointed. And each subsequent episode, I still hoped and prayed that the next one would be great, only to be crushed again. I guess I most related myself to Charlie Brown, trying to kick that football over and over again, only to have Lucy yank it at the last minute, causing me to fall painfully on my back.
I could actually forgive inaccuracies and plot holes if the writing and acting were good. And, while I thought the overall story of the three was good, I thought the execution was horrid.
It's hard for me to say it. I'm not one of those people who love to criticize every little detail about a movie. I wanted to love the movies. I tried to convince myself after each one that it wasn't that bad. But repeated viewings wouldn't let me continue to think that way.
Star Wars is, for me, much more than a movie series. I saw Episode IV on my father's lap, little more than a baby. I had the SW glasses from Burger King and McDonald's. I had every toy. Hell, to this day, I still sleep every night on my SW pillowcase (It's so old that you can barely see what it is, but I've used it since the age of 5, so it's hard to toss it).
Having said all that, if I were going to watch the entire trilogy, I'd do it in the Flashback style. That's a pretty neat way to think about it.
I will, however, be glued to my set watching Episodes IV-VI on Cinemax on the 10th. Because any excuse to see the original trilogy is a good excuse.
1) I, myself, find the transition from classic to prequel easier than the reverse. Going from II to IV, viewers are left wondering what the hell happened, and yet they can make the connection between one Skywalker and another (you'd have to be a complete dotard to not grok it). Also, the difference in the whole feeling of the films is tremendously jarring.
2) Following I and II with IV make the throughline either the droids (easy to believe, since they start IV) or Obi-Wan. The droids doesn't work, because the story really isn't about them (though Lucas did toy with the idea whenever he discussed the 9-episode version of the series), and the Obi-Wan connection doesn't work, since he dies. The viewer is thus left baffled.
3) IV-V-I-II-III-VI presents the prequels as a flashback - this is my favorite part - which allows for a lot of the discontinuity you see in the prequels. They look weirdly different? The animation is fluid and unnatural? The design work is inconsistent? Hey, it doesn't matter - it's a flashback, and memory is inherently unreliable.
Make no mistake, I like mef's suggestion, but it's not how I would recommend newbies watch the series. For that, I'd have to recommend the flashback method. When my kids are old enough, that's how they'll see it.
The only way you could improve on the flashback method and still watch all 6 films is if there was a way to make the prequels a dream sequence...which would allow doubt that the events of the prequels even transpired as depicted. Wouldn't that be great?
1: Watch the UNaltered original trilogy,
2: Watch the Prequals,
3: Watch the Special edition of the original trilogy,
What this approach does is highlight 2 things: one, the evolution of the franchise. You see the originals as the true kick off point of the franchise, and how their pre-existence fed into and inspired the prequals even if the prequals are set before the originals. Then, you can see how the ideas of the originals backwashed into the prequals and how they were altered to work with the prequal story and make the whole thing more coherant.
The other thing it does is present Star Wars as a wheel of fate: No real begginning or end, because the saga is coherant either originals first or prequals first.
My son (4) has seen portions in different order, but when it comes time for him to understand, we will watch it in order. The way it was meant to be.
This method will, however take the revealing of Palpatine as a Sith Lord as not a suprise. But overall Method 3 is the best for a NEW viewer.
Obiwan tells luke about the clone wars with his father, vader reveals to luke his love of padme, Leia, yoda, and later the emporor himself reveal the way he formed the Galactic Empire and the way the rebellion took place. Obiwan reveals to luke how his father was an epic pilot. This version was actually well edited and got rid of the need to see the first 3 movies. It's amazing how simple editing makes the first 3 movies not suck.
Why be so rigid about the whole thing?
Episode IV was the first STAR WARS movie I had seen as a kid. The problem was that I didn't like it. It took me several years to like Episode IV and get over the cliffhanger in Episode V.
Although I love the old trilogy, I had no trouble in falling in love with the new trilogy. It wasn't a let down for me.
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1: Watch the UNaltered original trilogy,
2: Watch the Prequals,
3: Watch the Special edition of the original trilogy
The only problem is that it's 9 movies which is pretty hardcore viewing, plus you basicly see three movies twice, but it's still the best option I think.
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What i like about it is that when you see episode 1 and 2 you dont yet know that Anakin and Vader are the same person, which really alters the experience imho.
Also, all great revelations ( Vaders Identity, the fact that Leia is Lukes sister, Anakins Fall, hell even the identity of the Emperor) are preserved until the second half of the "marathon", which i really like.
It presents the Story not as two seperate trilogies but all part of one greater Story.
fact,I was more excited finding out Luke and Leia would be born to Padme in part 3. My verdict, if you are a first time watcher, I strongly suggest you watch I,II,IV,V,III and then VI. Much more intriguing and relevant to today's time. The story flows quite well too. I do however want to say that had I watched star wars more than 15years ago then perhaps yes, I would be on the band wagon of watching it the original way as it would have been more exciting for me that way back then. My suggestion is only for first time viewers. Anyways, now I am a star wars fan hence the detailed post :)
So I know this was originally submitted like 6 years ago, but I stumbled upon this in a search for a discussion on the different light-saber dueling styles that Vader uses over the course of the Star Wars episodes, and after reading how bad this whole blip was I really just had to throw my opinion in here.
Honestly mate, I think your a complete dumb-arse-wagon... 1st of all; you only put forth 4 ideas on how to view the order of them and that's just not being imaginative cuz there's more options if you mix it up a bit - 2nd; you used some pretty terrible criteria for considering what matters towards how you plan to view the movies like the special effects being important - 3rd; if your going to use such stringent and useless qualifiers as the special effects as a relevant consideration, then the quality of acting might as well be thrown in there too, and that would change things quite a bit - 4th; you sorta touched on the distinction between what works better for first time viewers of Star Wars compared to veterans, but you really didn't explicitly mention how each one would be good/bad for the veteran and for the first-timer - 5th; You only suggested the option of dropping films from the viewing order for one of your methods, ironically it being the method that you would yourself recommend (I hate it when people do that, add extra or special considerations for what they endorse and not any of the other options - its an example of a fallacious style of argument), which raises both the problem of how you really cant eliminate any of the films for a legit star wars film watching marathon and if your going to option eliminating for one method then you have to include it for other methods as well - and 6th; Not that it really matters in the end or to the point of what this is all about, but you should have made some mention to the consideration of the special edition films that included some of the extended, enhanced, and remastered scenes that weren't included in the original film... namely that asides from the digitally enhanced and remastered version (purely on an aesthetic value of sound and picture quality regards) those versions with added effects and deleted scenes and all the other extra crap actually detracted from the quality and experience of the original trilogy (watch HelloGreedo youtube videos to see a side by sidce comparison to see what I'm talking about)... but like I said earlier, if your going to take special effects as a validc consideration then this is also something to look at.
So to explain, 1- there are obviously other ways to watch the films, hell you could even watch them backwards for a weird look, 2- the first film was made in 1977 so you have to be forgiving of what they were capable of doing then and what we can do now... I mean, Star Wars in 77 was considered revolutionary at the time for its effects, and the newer episodes have cool effects but by no means groundbreaking, so that could even be a consideration for order if you look at effects, which was more awesome at the time it was made, 3- the acting was pretty awful in the prequels, specifically and especially episode II's Anakin and Padme scenes... a lot of the fault here was because George Lucas is a terrible director and has no idea what emotional affect on the big screen means let alone how to accomplish it, 4- I can think of how a certain sequence works best for those who have never seen the films before and a different one for those who have, but honestly mate, you really need to be especially emphasizing this point cuz for the vast majority of us that already have seen the films or haven't seen them but have heard the now age old catch phrase "Luke.... I am your father..." the big surprise at the end of Empire is no M. Night. Shambalansahoweverhisnameisspelt twist and we all know what happens in the story and we are just trying to have a good ole Star Wars watching marathon experience and don't even need to take into consideration a spoiler alert, 5- dropping films from a Star Wars marathon? Yoda can take it from here: "A Jedi craves not these things" the complete phrase including "adventure...heh....excitement...hheh
So I've been exhaustive on how you and what you said suck the big one and why, so now I will give you the heads up on what the right way to watch star wars is.... for the newcomer and the veteran alike.... You start with Episode IV, then you watch I, then II, then V, then III, and finally VI. This being the optimal way of watching them, but with the added option of switching some stuff up depending upon certain considerations and preferences as long as you stick with watching episodes 1 2 and 4, then 3 and 5, and then 6. Its a combination that works for both the newcomer and the veteran alike, no spoilers that give away the big secrets ahead of time, a dialogue of continuity and flashback scenes that makes sense, information that we find lacking in the original trilogy is provided by the newer movies without saying too much, a tilt that showcases the special effects first and is then replaced by a meaningful story arc (lets face it, special effects are awesome, but they get boring after awhile of watching them, you always want more and better and crazier - I mean, I practically came in my pants watching the Yoda/Dooku fight at the end of Attack of the Clones the first time in the theater but now I watch it and I'm like "Yeah, Yoda's awesome, but this isn't exciting anymore") that keeps us engaged and interested, an effective way of introducing characters in both past and present in as close a simultaneous was as possible, a nice and consistent way to compare and contrast elements of the films and the way that they kind of correspond between the trilogies, and a downright epic way of highlighting this stories epicness..... the only better way of watching these films is if you were to break them up into pieces and segments and then arrange them according to the revelations that they give. IE watch IV and then Empire up until Luke goes to Cloud City so we find out the green guy on Degobah is Yoda but we dont know that Vader is Lukes daddy-o and still believe that Vader killed Lukes dad then go back to Episodes I and II and some of the III then go watch the rest of Empire and then watch the end of III and then finish with VI.
You know what... I might just splice together me an ultimate Star Wars start to finish watch it this way chop shop job of a putting the different episodes together to watch them in the most effective and meaningful way as possible. I win.
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